Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/87/1 - August 1917 - Part 5

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42 not fighting if they can help it at present - it is quite hand to bray kim to a fight. They are either very tow - too low to fight safely, or very high. Igou allack we are out every doe I ws out this morning you know he added - I had heard a major of one sgn, where we called to findway, tell a young scot (who ame in ie his shertsleeves & Id I think well carry J-H's danerous on to fly today - Im sure its daugerous; Hheres too much wind.
10 43 The fermans are shooting at them w some weapon wh they dont guite know nature of tracer shells they can tell, but there 1s aloo a messile which is sent up in bunches of four, all in flame, known as the "string of onious. Probabt phosphowas of somekind to burn your planes. he sd. They can see bote of these missiles fin in the air by doy. The fermans fire 3 kinds of bullets from their maching - they are in rotation in the belt: tracer, armour siercey, Explosive,
44 tracer; armour peoren explosive- Edwars showed us all three. The Explasive bullet is dangerous to play about with. It has a tiny hole down the core of it, much smalle than th of the old. pre-Boerwar dum-deems? it explodes in the air, the rush of air down the central hole setting the Explosive s going. It wod Set fire to the places if it bit them. Edwards was, as fullett said to me afterwor, probably an ordinary little chap, in private life, but dignified by the sort of Exaltation of his sacrifice ofhimself to this semple endd
sport. Iows a sport to him & his life ws staked on it recklessly. The row of hqneur bottles a along and messroom wall, with recipes for I think it was 21 Cocktails above them caught fulletts eye at once. Thats the alternative, hedd I wish you had seen it it was t synificant. Poor chaps - I expect it is, That pace cant last. It mast be eit death or a breakdown & a breakdown probabl means, well, those bottled show what Edwards was ready to talk agood deal once the re was broken - poor little chap. I suppose the chance of emmortal
for teir deeds & namel is to one Barthly anition which treee boys chang outs they must see the next few weeks ahead of him as the short cramied hour which remains. a short straight blind alley-w almost entirily shat out the stern regulations of the army from any publict or recognition by the nation Gernas French of their deeds. The th publish the names of leading fliers but our rule is that they must aot on any account be mentioned by their names; a little short notoriety withen their coops & then - flash out - that i the chance they see aheado tem Edwerds kept a book &he let me copy some 10
pr4 OP offe Heyght. Dale. 12000 July 6 3000 712 111 (second flynt) 12,000 12t 14000 13000 10000 13t 9000 12000 14k 10000 3.000 1612 8000 1712 13000 48 pages which I piches in it. I have not noted the length of rach flight but they ran from about 45 mins to Thr. 40 min & to 2hrs 1omins in some cases. The average seemed about the 10 mins to Cr. Bomins. Rewerks. Patrol, Litte to Dunkirk, defence of the Dunkerk - Test gun in sea O.P. Namerous Enemy acroptanes. Had a fight. Got 2. O.P. Gun not working C.P. High Tension Wire broke2 Cylinda O.P. gun not workin O.F. Engine trouble. O.P. Escort. Brought down by Archie& crashed alone. Saw Several E.A. Brought new machine from St Omer Very cloudy, Saw 3E.A. Fired on several E.A. Namerous enemy in Sight O.P.
49 Height Date 187 3000 1915. 2015 9000 10000 213t. 12000 12000 22nd. 12.500 23rd. 5000 9000 9000 24th 2516 6000 14,000 2715 12000 4000 28t 10,000 14000 10,.000 29 th 36 Kewarks. OF. Very cloudy & raining. Attacked one 2 Seater E.A. O.P. Engine & fan trouble (total time flying since commencement (including many flights not here) 15 hro 5 4.m.] CCMB. Fered at one EA. Saw numerous EA OD Saw 8 EA scouts. very cloudy. Dived at one. EA scout. gun not firing. Fired at 2EA Scouts. Namerous EAVisible Fired at one EA Scont. Dived at others but gun not firing. Very cloudy & misty. gun not firing. Saw one EA scout No EA. Very cloudy + raining towards night on Patrol. Decisive combat with one EA scout. Decinie combat with one Evemy 2 scater, Observer fell out. Engine test. Had combet wik & Enemy Acroplane scout end one two-seater. Dived at one E Ascout. Very cloudy, attacked by eight.
Day of Bettle of yeres. Cat. Mres abys 5 the 1.5 Sr 1t o 38 ofe 5 1 & I think he visited at ye this lates & &S s8 Sot m9. bullets 5 buttons of observine or 8 Coat. 14 Hight watt 3131 300 300-2,500 5th August 4,000 3000 6t 300 312 200 91 2000 3000 10 300 3000 11th 20-2000 3000 131½. 2,500 14th 3000 4000 1515 3000 Remarks. 10 52 clouds at 300 feet. Fhying between barrages of shells and maching guns Over grount, firing at sight. Sired into trenches. Special Patrol 13 E.A seen. Cbrdy. Ground Patrol. One EAseen. Cloudy. Hourosence communent 105h. 34n fround Patrol N.E. o Ypres. Clondy graining. Fired on trenches and advanced posts. Gun trouble Several E.A seen high up. Fered on two 2-seater E.A. (Indecisive. Dropped bombs on infantry. Dived & fired on balttery. Lt Wells & self brought down EA.Z.se in flaves this side. Fired on trenches. 4 Wellswounded. I-siece booke. Landed just behind tives, an crased. Several EA seen indecisise combat with 2 EA. Souto Richtovens Arcus 3 phigs cubout. Hnd to return early Fired at 2 EA scouts Richtoven's Circus. storms.
53 16500- 3,000 3000 t Combato 3000 Richtosens Circus, he sd, ws a squadron run fy the Count Richt oven, who is often appearing in 1German Communighes. They are an especially active capable lot offhers - the only ones who do any atacken work speaking of just now. They have acroplanes with red noses+ ( I believe they have had to change this recently). 54 Flying along barrage. Offencive 5k army front. Very Cloudy. Several E.A. Seen. Combat with 2 lots of four 2 seaters got one down. Edwards picked out the AF.C. fliers in their sqn. book: G.A Wells - a gipslander from near Sale, who used to be in the 5th A.1.Bde - He got better with work across the bines & went flying with Edwards, low down, over I german infantry in shell boles in Iearly stages o Gpres Battle. He had aonly been at it a few days. He was but when flyeng very low with Edwards, When German opend to abt 40 M. gs. The we recommended for the mclitery Cross.
55 Edwards name is H.J Edwards, A.I.F. & R.F.C.). T. Barttam, AT.C. whose first fly was on the Day. o1 great battle, 31/7/17. Hewent to have a look at battle, for practice; he went out twice The clouds were at 500 ft. wetin a fortnight or 50 hs prss flight He Archie shot a hole thro both his planes on one casion, & an Albatross Vieuport shot him down on another. Re the first occasion he crashed. The secon I time alto his elevating controls were shot thro' (on his tail) be monaged by putting his engine on, (when its nose goes up), and shulling it off (when the nose jod down). Bartham also, I believe

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not fighting if they can
help it at present - it
is quite hard to bring them
to a fight. They are
either very low - too
low to fight safely, or
very high. If you attack
we are out every day -
I ws out this morning
you know" he added - I
had heard a major of one
sqn, where we called to
xxxxx find / way, tell
a young scot (who came
in in his shirtsleeves &
sd " I think we'll carry
on") - "It's dangerous
to fly today - I'm sure
its dangerous ; there's
too much wind." -

 

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The Germans are shooting
at them w some weapon
wh they dont guite know
/ nature of -  tracer
shells they can tell, but
there is also a weapon
missile which is sent
up in bunches of four,
all in flame, known
as the "string of onions." -
Probably phosphorous of
some kind to burn your x
planes." he sd. They
can see both of these
missiles fired in the air
by day.
The Germans fire 3 kinds
of bullets from their machine
guns inx - they are in
rotation in the belt: tracer,
armour piercing, explosive,

 

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tracer; armour piercing.
explosive - Edwards showed
us all three. The Explosive
bullet is dangerous to play
about with. It has a tiny
hole down the core of it, much
smaller than tt of the old.
pre-Boer war dum-dums;" it
explodes in
Hand drawn diagram - see original
the air, the
rush of air down the central
hole setting the Explosive
xxxxxxxx arrangements going. It wd
Set fire to the planes if it hit
them.
Edwards was, as
Gullett said to me afterwds,
probably an ordinary little
chap, in private life, but
dignified by the sort of
Exaltation of his sacrifice
of himself to this simple end of

 

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sport.  It ws a sport to
him & his life ws staked on
it recklessly.  The row
of Liqueur bottles a along their
messroom wall, with
recipes for I think it was
21 cocktails above them
caught Gulletts eye at once.
"That's the alternative," he sd
"I wish you had seen it -
it was xxxx xx awfully significant.-"
Poor chaps - I expect it is.
That pace cant last. It must
be either death or a breakdown
- & a breakdown probably
means, well, those bottles
show what.
Edwards was ready to
talk a good deal once the ice
was broken - poor little chap.
I suppose the chance of immortality 

 

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for their deeds & name
is to one earthly ambition
which these boys cling onto
- they must see the next
few weeks ahead of them as
the short crammed hour
which remains, a short
straight blind alley - wth
almost entirely shut out by
the stern regulations of the
army from any publicity
or recognition by the nation
of their deeds. The rule is tt Germans & French
publish the names of leading fliers but our rule is
that they must not on any
account be mentioned by
their names; x a little short
notoriety within their corps
& then - flash out - that
is the chance they see ahead of
them.
Edwards kept a book
& he let me copy some

 

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O.P=
Offensive Patrol

Date  Height
July 6th  12000

7th

3000

11th

(Second Flight)

12000

12th

14000
  13000
  10000

13th

9000
  12000

14th

10000
  3000

16th

8000

17th

13000

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pages which I picked
in it.  I have not noted
the length of each flight but
they ran from about 45 mins
to 1 hr. 40 min & to 2hrs
10 mins in some cases. The
average seemed about the 1 hr 10
mins to 1 hr 30 mins.
Remarks.
Patrol, Lille to Dunkirk, Defence of King.
Dunkirk - Test gun in sea
O.P. Numerous Enemy aeroplanes.
Had a fight. Got 2.
O.P. Gun not working
O.P. High Tension Wire broke .... 2 Cylinders
O.P. Gun not working
O.P. Engine trouble.
O.P. Escort. Brought down by Archie & crashed
alone. Saw several E.A.
Brought new machine from St Omer
Very cloudy, Saw 3 E.A.
Fired on several E.A. Numerous enemy in
Sight O.P. 

 

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Date  Height
18th 3000
19th  
20th 9000
  10000
21st 12000
22nd 12000
  12,500
23rd 5,000
  9000
24th 9000
25th 6000
  14000
27th 12000
  4000
28th 10000
  14000
29th 10,000

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Remarks.
OP. Very cloudy & raining. Attacked
one 2 Seater E.A.
O.P. Engine & gun trouble.
[Total time flying since commencement
(including many flights not here) 75 hrs 54 m.]
C.E.W.B.

Fired at one EA. Saw numerous EA. O.P.
Saw 8 EA scouts. Very cloudy.
Dived at one. EA scout. gun not firing.
Dived at 2 EA Scouts. Numerous
EA visible
Fired at one EA Scout. Dived at others but
gun not firing.
Very cloudy & misty. gun not firing.
"   "     "     "       "            Saw one EA scout
"   "     "     "       "            No EA.
Very cloudy + raining towards night
on Patrol.
Decisive combat with one EA scout.
Decisive combat with one Enemy 2 seater,
Observer fell out.
Engine test.
Had combat with 4 Enemy aeroplane scouts
and one two-seater.
Dived at one E A scout.
Very cloudy, attacked by eight. 

 

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[Day of Battle
of Ypres.
C.E.W.B.]

Date Height
31st 300
  300-2,500
5th August 4000
  3000
6th 300
8th 200
9th 2000
  3000
10th 300
  3000

[*There is a big
difce between
this & arty flying
work.
All Aust. Sqns fighting Sqns,
Except one - with Corps. These men are
flying in our
own fire,
accepting the
chance. Compare the
way this used to
be considered in
Esp. SA. war. / i.e.
The fact of arty
sometimes hitting
our own men
ws spoken of in whispers -
Almost like shooting
of [[shorthand]] by own men.
Now it is accepted by
infy (shooting of [[shorthand]]
I never even heard
mention or hinted at).*]

X I think
he visited
this later &
got m.g.
bullets &
buttons of
observers
coat.

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Remarks.
clouds at 300 feet. Flying between
barrages of shells and machine guns
over ground, firing at sight. Fired into
trenches. Special Patrol.
13 E.A. seen.  Cloudy.  Ground Patrol.
One E A seen.  Cloudy.
[Hours since commencement 105h. 34m].
Ground Patrol N.E. of Ypres.  Cloudy
& raining.
Fired on trenches and advanced
posts.  Gun trouble
Several E.A seen high up.
Fired on two 2-seater E.A. (Indecisive.)
Dropped bombs on infantry.  Dived &
fired on battery.
Lt Wells & self brought down EA.2-seater
in flames this side. x
Fired on trenches.  Lt Wells wounded.
T-piece broke.  Landed just behind
lines an crashed.
Several EA seen
Indecisive combat with 2 EA. Scouts
Richtoven's Circus.
3 plugs cut out. Had to return early
Fired at 2 EA scouts Richtoven's Circus.
storms.

 

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16th 500 - 3000
3000
17th  Combat w
3000
Richtovens Circus, he sd, ws a squadron
run by the Count Richtoven, who is
often appearing in / German Communiques.
They are an especially active capable
lot of fliers - the only ones who do
any attacking worth speaking of
just now. They have aeroplanes
with red nosesx
(x I believe they have had to
change this recently).

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Flying along barrage. Offensive
5th army front.
Very Cloudy.  Several E.A. Seen.
Combat with 2 lots of four 2 seaters.
got one down.
Edwards picked out the AF.C.
fliers in their sqn. book:
G.A Wells - a gippslander from
near Sale, who used to be in
the 5th A.I. Bde - He got
bitten with work across the
lines & went flying with
Edwards, low down, over
/ German infantry in shell
holes in / early stages o /
Ypres Battle.  He had at only
been at it a few days.  He
was hit when flying very low
with Edwards, Where /
German opened w abt 40
m.gs.  He ws recommended for
the Military Cross.

 

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[Edwards name is H.J
Edwards, A.I.F. & R.F.C.]

J. Bartlam, A.F.C. whose first
fly was on the day o / great
battle, 31/7/17.  He went to
have a look at / battle, for
practice; he went out twice
The clouds were at 500 ft.
Within a fortnight or so of
his first flight An Archie shot a hole
thro' both his 'planes on
one occasion, & an
Albatross Nieuport shot
him down on another. On
the first occasion he
crashed. The second time
altho his elevating controls
were shot thro' (on his tail) he
managed by putting his engine
on, (when its nose goes up), and
shutting it off (when the nose goes
down). Bartlam also, I believe, 

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