Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/249/1 - 1917 - 1932 - Part 3

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538 Collins Street. p Melbourne, Sept 20 28th June 1932. Dear Bean, I am a fraid that, even with the assistance of the information contained in your letter, I cannot, from memory, give you any data sufficiently accurate for use. But perhaps if you had a sentence or two drawing attention to the diffi- culty of assembling a large body of troops in such a confined area and of arranging relief of the troops in the line it would be a sufficient indication to students that the area and the troop movements might repay study. The matter is not of extreme importance, and as I said in my previous letter 1 only drew attention to it because it was something which should interest students. As a matter of fact at the time the task looked to me to be well nigh hopeless and I remember 2 distinct feeling of dismay at essaying it. Its achievement, like that of the assembly of troops at Anzac for the August offensive, was an interesting proof of the limited space into which large bodies can be crammed and moved in an emergency. Yours sincerely, Bidensle While Dr. C. E. W. Bean D.Litt. Victoria Barracks PADDINGTON, N.S.W.
TELEGRAPHIC ADDRESS TELEPHONE NOS. COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA. AUSWARMUSE. F 2597. F 2598. COMMUNICATIONS TO RE ADDRESSED TO THE DIRECTOR. AUSTRALLAN WAR MEMORIAL. They Cale that thies, Forthat Cabiectt thes POST OFFICE BOX 216 D. IN REPLY PLEASE OUOTE received a praise which never ases and a tomb most slorious- not so much the tomb in 12 EXHIBITION BUILDINGS, MELBOURNE. Mo mn n ne nns which they lie, but that in which their fame survives, to be remembered for ever when occasion comes for word or deed 12th February, 1930. Dear Mr. Bazley, With reference to your letter 5335 of the 2nd January, it is noted that you did not receive map 14:27:9 which was included on our receipt form. In connection with this map, Mr. Weston informs me that it was a captured German message map issued for operations against the left flank of 1st Anzac during September 1917 He points out that the map was quite a small one and unmounted and that it was probably left unmounted because of information contained on the back of the map. Mr. Weston suggests that in view of the small size of the map and the likelihood of it being mislaid if left beneath the larger mounted sheets, he may have, for greater security, placed it above the second last sheet where it could easily be overlooked when the maps were checked. Would you mind confirming if the map was placed in this position Yours sincerely, &c Mr. A. W. Bazley CJo Official Historian Victoria Barracks, Paddington, N.S.W. I
7 Vidona Avenue Clairmont Wa. 22 Feby 1931 My desr Braw my admiration for your work grows qredter as I becaue nearer the end of my tether and I offer no other excuse for iufleding on you memories which remain exhaordinanly clear, I fear to the exclusion of more pradical cincerns- Much experience of will meant enterference forces in me the knowledge of how viritating it is to have ones coodinated thought intempted be- and how eager kind people are to tnsh their suggestions forward. Please fergue me and know that if you suuply say dam the man and chuck the lot in the waste paper basket- I shall not be in the least hurt If you do read it bear one thing in mied that to me the crue of the Passchendaele operations secueed to be transport and the work of he honeers Enqineers Tunnelless &c was ao ardmows that I should deary like I recognized in what I am certain will b in years to come a widely studied record of Anshahan heroismn - A beg word but truc Fo forty seven consequive days I haversed those roals East of Yprs and I know what those men did. It was
a work of drudgery with no glorious momets of Excbemant in it but I will remember dd Sandy Carrukiess asking Have you any idea how many casualties your parties I did and know. He said 1500 to have sustained. date. I told him it was worth while and Lobo turned to me and saidNick you are a devil I wasnt a devil Beau. No man ever did morr. to keep his men will ir spent so many days making dressing stations or shelters than I did but I knew the road work was saving hundreds & hundreds and so I urged it on - Gen. While will confirm this - Beleve me I wasnt callous - In all that time I never sent a working party out that I didn't personally visit with poor od Danitry and he was killed within a few yords of me- I want no recognition, I wased my work but certain senur mew laid the chargie against me that I gave too hard a lask - they admitted I was always present and Smythe fore their complaint up & refused to consider it – (This was after Bullecanst bn the same Kind of Run cropped up at ypes) If therefore in your minute investgation you came on tess turial affair bear my veew in mued Your very humble admirer
HN. Third Ypres. work of Proneers. Marratur of construction work -- 1917 Eppres. Z. Uebeks- Zounebike H.Q. left Querrian for Hasze brouck July 1917- following on 5t Julicu battle by Brelish troops wrnt to Poperrghe District Inspection of roads East of Ypres disclosed a deplorable position TNenin Road from Menin Gate to Berr Cross Roads was just passable, favr to Hell -Fire Corner thence very rough. Hellfire Corner to Zellebeke barely passable East of this nothing esished an alternative plank road South of Ypss had ben commanced to morrartillery a road had to be constructed from Zillebike to Birr & Roads junchining with the Menon Rd near Hooge. After this Birr X Rd constituted the starting point. A plaik road was made to I did corner returning in a circuit through Chatean Wood to Menin Road between Boir X Rds and Hooge. from Idiot corner it was continued to Westhock Hedge another circuit bringing it back to Chaleau Wood whole a concxion was made with- he
main road at Frizenberg. From Westhock Ridge I was carried over the Hannabocke to Zounebike thence across the railway towards Paschendaele a return road bring made by rndering passable the main Ypres Zonncbeke Road as far as Fiizenberg- These plank roads formed an unique passage for artillery and infantry. They were mostly conntructed of elm but in one section oat planks were used. The dimensions of the planks were 10 ft x 9t5 12 in x 2 1 22 in- The method adopted was to cut a drain in either side of the construction filling in shell holes and making a formation will the sport from the draws. On this formation five planks were laid longiudinate about 2fh apart and in these a close decking of similar planks was bolted the whole bring secured by an edging of 6 half round pinwood fastencd to the planks and forming a lorder enabling transpot to maintain the track They were one way roads. Passing sidingss were ineffective so concets had to be made.
One fealure of the heavy shilling the country has sustained was that the whole length of original cross country roads was obliberated bring traceable only by occasional occurrances of road metal. At Zonncbike an unsuspected pave road in fair order was discovred under 12 to 18 of soel shrown on it from shell holes. Probably the worst area of amashed country was in the neighbourhood of the Haniabike where several field guns were found completely buried in mud To cross this sector fascines connstructed of faggots were first laid long chudinally ten crossed by sumlar fascims forming a fundation for the planks which were laid as on earth fouudation. This acted excellently carrying the weight and allowing water to drain through. The amount of transport required was considerable and everything depended on a complete organization. To Major Sheldon and Capt Graentes was due all credil for keeping up supplies which never once failed. a whole train of planks arrived at Ooderdom Siding near Poperinghe each day about 2 pm. 240 lons were supplied in a train load mstor At the siding eighty 4 ton [lrries were loaded
with three tons each and proceeded to Menin Road passing through Ypres. They were enclosded on to the roadside As soon as they were clear on their return purney Ovehundred & twrnty G5. 2 horse transport wagous passed through Ypres and were loaded up each carrying 13 planks. These moved to the head of the constructed plank road making two tups before light visibelity prevented further morniet The planks were then man handled to the formation Australian The work of the JC.S.C. drivers was magnificint- nearly every day the road was shelled while the contrction proceeded frequently smashing the planking + necessitating a long doing of vhicles to remain stationary in a most exposed position until repairs them to movr on. There was no possibility of turning. During the whole period of this transport- there was no instance of wagars ir horses bring abondoned, These drivers showed a sheadnress under fire equal to the bist work done by any infantry The track from Bure X Rds to Westbock Ridge presented
an extraordinary sight and it was cotimated there was a dead horse for every fur yards and a smashed wagon Every 50 yards- Ieveral decorations were given N.C.Os and drivers and on onc particularly interisting morning Capt. N.N. MCCLEAN an English Engineer officer serving as adjutant to the Eenstralian Coops troops Engineers specially distinguished himself in clearing the road where some forty G.S. wagons were standing under shell fire inedoubledly saving many casuallies and loss of mderial. The achual length of plank road constructed was 18.300 yords, approsimately 64 miles done in 54 days or an average of 337 yards per day. Considering the conditions it was probably the finest effort made by the Gioneers and Tunneling Companies during the war. No definite record appears available as to the cost in personarel but sometime before the completion 70 less than 1500 casualties had occurred among the Anstralian Fiomers, one morning some 35 bring Kelled and wounded by one unlucky German shell. The work was divided into secleus, Anits bring givon various lengths of road the whole linking up on a given day.
B. general Joly de Lothbiniere C.E. Australian Cops detailed the whole work to L.CR.E. JH Nichdsin C.R.E. corps troops who allothed sections to the 124 &5 Peoncors IAust Cunrelling ICanadian TunnellongC and the work was greatly assisted by battalions of Royal Welch Rgl. Sressex Rgt and Essex Rgt. A German communizal published in the London papers slated the road and light railway construction on this porch (Australian) is remarkable roads apparently springing up during the night and our own Infautry Brs whoch had chruggled through mid to their positions were astonished to find on bring relieved that good plank roads covered the route they had waversed so wearely a few days previously.

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Sept 20. 1917*]
538 Collins Street.
Melbourne,
28th June 1932.
Dear Bean,
I am afraid that, even with the assistance of the
information contained in your letter, I cannot, from memory,
give you any data sufficiently accurate for use. But perhaps
if you had a sentence or two drawing attention to the 
difficulty of assembling a large body of troops in such a confined
area and of arranging relief of the troops in the line it
would be a sufficient indication to students that the area
and the troop movements might repay study. The matter is
not of extreme importance, and as I said in my previous letter
I only drew attention to it because it was something which
should interest students. As a matter of fact at the time
the task looked to me to be well nigh hopeless and I remember
a distinct feeling of dismay at essaying it. Its achievement,
like that of the assembly of troops at Anzac for the August
offensive, was an interesting proof of the limited space into
which large bodies can be crammed and moved in an emergency.
Yours sincerely,
Brudenell White
Dr. C. E. W. Bean D.Litt.
Victoria Barracks
PADDINGTON, N.S.W.

 

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12 February, 1930.

Dear Mr. Bazley,
With reference to your letter 5335 of the 2nd
January, it is noted that you did not receive map 14:27:9
which was included on our receipt form. In connection with
this map, Mr. Weston informs me that it was a captured German
message map issued for operations against the left flank of
1st Anzac during September 1917. He points out that the map
was quite a small one and unmounted and that it was probably
left unmounted because of information contained on the back
of the map.
Mr. Weston suggests that in view of the small size
of the map and the likelihood of it being mislaid if left
beneath the larger mounted sheets, he may have, for greater
security, placed it above the second last sheet where it could
easily be overlooked when the maps were checked. Would you
mind confirming if the map was placed in this position?
[*O.K.*]
Yours sincerely
J S Nelson
Mr. A.W. Bazley
C/O Official Historian,
Victoria Barracks
Paddington, N.S.W

 

7 Victoria Avenue
Claremont W.A.
22 Feby 1931
My dear Bean
My admiration for your work grows greater as I become
nearer the end of my tether and I offer no other excuse for reflecting
on your memories which remain extraordinarily clear, I fear
to the exclusion of more practical concerns -
Much experience of well meant interference forces on me the
knowledge of how irritating it is to have ones coordinated
thought interrupted. can be - and how eager kind people are
to thrust their suggestions forward -
Please forgive me and know that if you simply say
"damn the man" and chuck the lot in the waste paper basket
I shall not be in the least hurt -
If you do read it bear one thing in mind that to me
the crux of the Passchendaele operations seemed to be transport -
and the work of the Pioneers Engineers Tunnellers [[etc?]] was so
arduous that I should dearly like it recognized in what
I am certain will be in years to come a widely studied
record of Australian heroism - A big word but true -
For forty seven consequetive days I traversed those roads
East of Ypres and I know what those men did. It was

 

a work of drudgery with no glorious moments of excitement
in it but I will remember old Sandy Carruthers asking
"Have you any idea how many casualties your parties
have sustained" I did not know - He said 1500 to
date. I told him it was worth while and Lobo turned
to me and said "Nick you are a devil" -
I wasnt a devil Bean. No man ever did more to
keep his men well or spent so many days making
dressing stations or shelters than I did but I knew the
road work was saving hundreds & hundreds and
so I urged it on - Genl White will confirm this -
Believe me I wasn't callous - In all that time I never
sent a working party out that I didnt personally visit
with poor old Daintry and he was killed within a few
yards of me - I want no recognition, it wasnt my
worth but certain senior men laid the charge against
me that I gave too hard a task - they admitted I
was always present and Smythe tore their complaint up
& refused to consider it – (This was after Bullecourt but the same kind of thing cropped up at Ypres)
If therefore in your minute investigation you come on this
trivial affair bear my view in mind -
Your very humble admirer
[[?]]

 

HN. Third Ypres.
Work of Pioneers.
Narrative of construction work -
Ypres. Zillebeke.  Zonnebeke - 1917
H.Q. left Querrian for Hazebrouck July 1917-
following on St Julien battle by British troops went to
Poperinghe District.
Inspection of roads East of Ypres disclosed a deplorable position
Menin Road from Menin Gate to Birr Cross Roads was
just passable, fair to Hell Fire Corner thence very rough.
Hellfire Corner to Zillebeke barely passable
East of this nothing existed.
An alternative plank road South of Ypres had been
commenced.
To move artillery a road had to be constructed
from Zillebeke to Birr X Roads junctioning with the
Menon Rd near Hooge.
After this Birr X Rd constituted the starting point.
A plank road was made to Idiot Corner returning
in a circuit through Chateau Wood to Menin Road
between Birr X Rds and Hooge.
From Idiot Corner it was continued to Westhoeck
Ridge another circuit bringing it back to Chateau
Wood while a connexion was made with the

 

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main road at Frezenberg.
From Westhoek Ridge it was carried over the Hannebeek
to Zonnebeke thence across the railway towards
Paschendaele a return road being made by
rendering passable the main Ypres Zonnebeke Road
as far as Frezenberg -
These plank roads formed an unique passage
for artillery and infantry. They were mostly
constructed of elm but in one section oak planks
were used. The dimensions of the planks were
10 ft x 9 to 12 in x 2 to 2½ in -
The method adopted was to cut a drain in
either side of the construction filling in shell holes
and making a formation with the spoil from the
drains.
On this formation five planks were laid longitudinally
about 2 ft apart and on these a close decking of similar
planks was bolted the whole being secured by
an edging of 6" half round pinewood fastened
to the planks and forming a border enabling
transport to maintain the track.
They were one way roads. Passing sidings were
ineffective so circuits had to be made.

 

3

One feature of the heavy shelling the country has sustained
was that the whole length of original cross country
roads was obliterated being traceable only by occasional
occurrences of road metal. At Zonnebeke an
unsuspected pavė road in fair order was discovered
under 12" to 18" of soil thrown on it from shell holes.
Probably the worst area of smashed country was in the
neighbourhood of the Hannabeek where several field
guns were found completely buried in mud.
To cross this sector fascines constructed of faggots
were first laid longitudinally then crossed by
similar fascines forming a foundation for the
planks which were laid as on earth foundation.
This acted excellently carrying the weight and
allowing water to drain through.
The amount of transport required was considerable
and everything depended on a complete organization.
To Major Sheldon and Capt Graentes was due all credit
for keeping up supplies which never once failed.
A whole train of planks arrived at Ooderdom
Siding near Poperinghe each day about 2 pm. 240 tons
were supplied in a train load
At the siding eighty 4 ton ^motor lorries were loaded

 

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with three tons each and proceeded to Menin Road
passing through Ypres. They were unloaded on to the
roadside.
As soon as they were clear on their return journey
one hundred & twenty G.S. 2 horse transport wagons passed
through Ypres and were loaded up each carrying 13
planks. These moved to the head of the constructed
plank road making two trips before light visibility
prevented further movement.
The planks were then man handled to
the formation.
The work of the ^Australian A.S.C. drivers was magnificent -
nearly every day the road was shelled while the
construction proceeded frequently smashing the
planking & necessitating a long string of vehicles
to remain stationary in a most exposed position
until repairs them to move on. There was no
possibility of turning. During the whole period
of this transport there was no instance of wagons or
horses bring abandoned, these drivers showed a
steadiness under fire equal to the best work
done by any infantry
The track from Birr X Rds to Westhoek Ridge presented

 

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an extraordinary sight and it was estimated there was
a dead horse for every five yards and a smashed wagon
every 50 yards -
Several decorations were given N.C.Os and drivers and
on one particularly interesting morning Capt. W.N. McCLEAN
an English Engineer officer serving as Adjutant to the
Australian Corps troops Engineers xxxx specially distinguished
himself in clearing the road where some forty G.S.
wagons were standing under shell fire undoubtedly
saving many casualties and loss of material.
The actual length of plank road constructed was 18,300
yards, approximately 10¼ miles done in 54 days or
an average of 337 yards per day.
Considering the conditions it was probably the finest effort
made by the Pioneers and Tunnelling Companies during the
war. No definite record appears available as to the
cost in personnel but sometime before the completion
no less than 1500 casualties had occurred among the
Australian Pioneers, one morning some 35 being killed
and wounded by one unlucky German shell.
The work was divided into sections, units bring given
various lengths of road the whole linking up on a
given day.

 

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Br. General Joly de Lothbiniere C.E. Australian Corps detailed
the whole work to Lt Col. E.J H Nicholson C.R.E. Corps troops who
allotted sections to the 1st 2nd 4th & 5th Pioneers Ist Aust Tunnelling
Co 1st Canadian Tunnelling Co and the work was greatly
assisted by battalions of Royal Welsh Rgt. Sussex Rgt and Essex
Rgt.
A German communiquė published in the London
papers stated "the road and light railway construction
on this front (Australian) is remarkable roads apparently
springing up during the night" and our own Infantry
Bns which had struggled through mud to their positions
were astonished to find on being relieved that good
plank roads covered the route they had traversed so
wearily a few days previously.

 


 

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