Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/246/1 - 1916 - 1929 - Part 15

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Ltevenson S. Force 113.3 Coptai CC. W Bearr Sydney Dear Cohloin Bear h Yours of the s it March 191 17 re inst to hand & I regret that all my books when maps etc were lost I was evaciated gassed give cannot 18 so. that I - ion 1 report as I would as full a I aw surfrised that like. the Battalian & Bde War deovie - arc To poor as I wrote Very the operation uf fully o fane My uremory however host of it. I Clear or relieved the 31st The 30t Bor Be in the line in from Bapa a10 Sopen or of the 16th Ach 1912 The distance being affrox from 5 Bapanne blot pwClo, ICDSO 1000 Ci The
2 placed me in charge of the with instructions to keep line with the enemy in touch as it was though that the pain o Were or they borne out. relixing. This was Litence of the enemy by the - Mr Guv fire latiing duly place but he kep. his soon as a floses going had settled down the me palrols but sen out that the enem they reported tenches were still held - Although they did hat think many Geoman& there were I thereupon fresen stotes Motto or gainsed O operation wheeh & hou ben in the captance of reculled. of the enem about; Loo Clearing out live Frity how3 the earrly This was in say mow would of the I covnot fix he Aban I am
After establisheng the time defenited hatat. Were on selves mhos was found pent. out i that Frdy quite defente wa move & the to hale on the oi of the 30th advancce i 5.30. am about Bapainne ware sen. ahead Palrats otrmsber loot & same Bapannie wher place in pasties of the enem is olaled ted to hald us up they inade a Iland Whenever out flans then - we wanld when fvil would vetire greater. Sheed than Will Sone enevi caution be Caused ben aal &Super Newio guin fore when they wase retirn up the town we uapped & established our selver on a line about 60o on of the tow the other side thy headgua bs (which afterwards
be come. Bo Hl being in the samp or to pehab L1. . d Worthy of mention that was heven out Abphouic of communication auging the the advance as whole of to salve possible was it W.2 to sufficient. Yoity link up. an sody that nformation thus is all the con give you & I ce some hope it will be. you use to Your o Sincere wtther semar advacin
.4151 4296. 18 March 1929. Dear Colonel Cheeseman, Kany thanks for your notes concerning Bapaune. 1 understand that at the entrance of one of the streets there was met the fire of a machine-gun which killed one man and wounded four. From your account and Barbour's, I take it that this occurred when the patrols were sent forward into the town, but should be glad of correction, if necessary. From the accounts now obtained I also infer that, after Barbour’s bombing stunt, the novement was mads in four stages, viz. (1) Patrols were sent forward into Till Trench, and, on receipt of their reports, treeps advanced (7 to Till Trench). then Patrols were, sent into the town, and were fired (2) on (when the abovementioned casualties cccurred). On receipt of their reports, the troops advanced as far as the Peronne Road running through the town. Here there was halt for 3½ hours - I assume that 13) wnls was due to waiting for orders. Patrols were sent out. About 10.30 you arrived, and sent out aeres Fresh patrols down streets parullel to those held by the Germn machineegun crew, which then cleared er out. Yon then ordered the advance to the castern outskirts of Bapaume. This advance was afterwards continued to the line (4) Kinally taken up 500 yards cast of the town. 1 should like to be clear especially as to whether in novement (2) the troops advanced behind the patrols without stopping in Till Trench, and, 1f so, to what point they advanced secondly, whether the casualties occurred as mentioned above; and thirdly, whether the dislodgment of the last eneny post in Baraune was effected in the manner des- cribed. Yours sincerely, Lient.-Colonel W.J.R. Cheeseman, D.S.O., M.C., Stevenson Street, Tares. MeLeke
Layee W 213 CoW Bear Caplain Sydney Dear Caplain Bear Yours of the to hand as for as os I can rember the following ore Your the fac ts in answer to questions. woops advanced to Gill tench Casuallies did occu. lovree 2 Ian not see if beroune Road was exact-location ber think i probable Correct essentially bu don think the half was st hous or that it was 1030a before I arrived However Barhau hobably has been for lunate eenough to freseave his record ti Your. fier Aftee sema
M.Ai5 4256. 5 March 1929. Captain T.C. Barbour, Box 281CM, C.P.0., Evane Dear Barbour, I am writing the account of 17 March 1977, but find to my astonislment, that there is no detailed merative what- ever in the brigede or battalion wardiary dealing with the Lighting of the previous night or early morning or giving any times. In particular, I should be grateful 1f I could obtain an account of what hoppened during the preceding night and early that morning, and evidence as to what origin- ated the discovery that the Cormns had retired, as well as facts and times connected with the advance to and through Dapaume. If you have any notes concerning this, or 1f your recollection is sufficiently vivid, I should be grateful for For the time being any assistance winch you cculd give ms. 1 an leaving the story a blank and proceeding with the rest of the narrntive. 1 an writing also to Colenels Cheesemen and Clark. Yours sincerely,
WW. Box2ozS. EPO Malbourne 9/3/29. Mr. C. Elc Bean officice Herhrien Dear Sir Your communication of the 5 Ins was reacccuned hme in Kelbourne, and I am forwarding under diparaly cover U/Ss. entisled & Bapanine and Beysa which may ie of fomm use regarding your enquiries for time i The Sodm. Wok over relief of the pon line trinche Midniges 6/17 March, an therefore cannot peernert about any infotmation you to that hour as to conditions but enidence of the German retunmens on I Cy sechs, carly on the mothing of 19 maich is ginen on D5, when a wombing M.M party including Its Smigh and Forber Yorher Cate abtained Communinn Cants), bombed along a sap Wert of Bapanne, on I cays right flank, as feu Capt theeseman minssapuation order. on the same page time is geven 9.15 an when I to een well established in the ceatie of the Toem without much apporition where they remaind some consedenable time als the missages timed, 10.30 am to advance through the town to new prts on tine H38025 to H28C 32 Eargof Baphume, wher D.Co drowe sut, partier of the terman Iremained ther Seneal fom wk both Hanks in the ai unhe the 23 Bn an Anothr Company of the 3oBy on oe right which had her rean tield cp, admanced, and completed the rine as descubed in the NSS Theal adnan of DC Sok yom our old psen or the 19th Manl was about 2 mile Ground llans (smoke) evm used to define our sosls to om ancrapt, but they were damp and of little use but when the plane grrince, we managed to athact attention py means o Ground Sheetsr some messaeo times on Mno mather an encluded n page gan 10, also brut extracts with times are given of some events on the followy day main an manage are from fuld note on to.1 1 book written during the Bapanne operah As the MSS Yourside is the only fan ope anailable well wou kindl retrn I am afts petural soy Be M. 2022S Melbourn as shoue Your faijully F. CBarlan Cpl Got S Sgt T. Smill, mentioned abov we recommended by the wybe frr he MM. which he obtaisr fr hs eecelle wih ring the Bapaun oferation. He attended the Br reunson last year is Lydny, ay reveved may insidents I the Bapayme seets, particularly the joy of see men when they bookup posihons East of Bapguny Joulg themselves on fer sacl away from the Muddy neactos of the Toume. He is engaged i the Public Works Dept Sydney should you caw to get in touch wock teen 10R
4151 4295. 18 March 1929. Dear Barbour, dany thanks for your notes concerning Rapaume, which 1 will shortly return. They have been very useft I understand that at the entrance of one of the streets there was met the fire of a machineegun which killed one man and wounded four. From your account and Cheeseman's, I take it that this occurred when the patrols were sent forward into the From town, but should be glad of correction, 1f necessary. ythe accounts now obtained I also infer that, after your bombing stunt, the novement was made in four stages, viz.- (1) Patrols were sent forward into Till Trench, and, on receipt of their reports, troops advanced (7 to Till French). then Patrols were, sent into the town, and were fired on 12) (when the abovementioned casualties occurred). on receipt of their reports, the troops advanced as far as the Peronne Road running through the town. Here there was a halt for 3½ hours - I assume that 13 this was due to waiting for orders. Patrols were sent out. About 10.30 Cheeseman arrived and sent out Fresh patrols down streets parallel to those held by the Ge rman machine-gun crew, which then cleared out. Cheeseman then ordered the advance to the eastern outskirts of Bapaume. This advance was afterwards continued to the line 14 finally taken up 600 yards cast of the town. should like to be clear especially as to whether any movement (2) the troops advanced behind the patrols without stopping in Till French, and, if so, to what point they advanced Decondly, whether the casualties occurred as mentioned above, and thirdly, whether the dislodgment of the last enemy post in Bapaume was effected in the manner described. Yours sincerely, T.C. Barbour, Esq Box 20223, 6.2.0s, Malbourne.
Bax 2022S., G.P.O. T. C. BARBOUR 30x 2813 N a.r.o. Melbeurne. ARCHITECT SYDNEY 23rd March 1929. 192 Mr C.E.W.Bean, Official Historian STRUCTURAL FAULTS Victeria Barracks, S Y.D N E V AND Dear Sir BUILOINC Your letter of the 18th inst to hand with PEATURES enquiriesregarding Bapaume, and some of the following points COPYRIGN 1923 may assist you in the matter. re TILL TKENCHe/c. I have no knowledge of the stoppage At the time of the advance the writer was on the referrad to. YOUR NOME Right flank with Bombling party established in position described AOVICE in adance of the Company sector, but Capt Cheeseman who was on th North (left) should have definite knowleds as to the halt in PROPERTY After taking the sap referrad to the writer desatch TILL TR. SUYERs a patrol from the bombing party under Sgt SMITH M.M. to exploit An further ahead (time about 5-30 am., see enclosed notes), and the, ARCHITECTS VIEWS roamed over the old Factory at H32d955 which was found empty. 2ND EDITION If you have a map of the locality it will show our posit; T. C. SARROUR at that stage on the Right, the factory baing several hundred Informatien -yards Eastf of themain posts. in Warlencourt Tr. of this further move on the part of the bombing party was then Shortly after the above incident patrols despatched to Hars. moved out to C C on enclosed sketch, which may be TILL Tr as described by Capt Cheeseman. (I am unable at this stage to recollect the name, in any case it is not marked on sketch). Fram the aganced post on the Right, the writer then A.m0y er month of trench waraEd, 12ts a observed the line extandin. unigue sightat theframe. s From the trenches L, 6u: Men Eme From what I could and advance unopposed towards the Town. see of the move there was no halt in the vicinity, and no doubt the 23rd Bn was also moving forward on our left again. The writar at this stage received a measssage to bring up the supports left in Warlencourt Tr and proceed forward to Bapaumc. Instructions were then given to the Bombing Part to conform to the movement, and protect the Right flank of The writer then hurried the Co. as they moved forward. back to Warlencourt Tr and Droughe bp the Teourves, ascing 6v3. the track described by Capt Cheeseman (Tii. Ty) but met no troops in occupation, and arrived in Bapaume on the heals of thht Set Snith and his arty wers als lecated, ths, main bedy. had gone claan through to Bapaume without opposition on the Right The position established in the Town was that given in the map references, which you describe as the PERONNE RL. I cannot recollect meeting Capt Cheeseman at the time of my arrival, or meeting any wounded by M.G. fire He was apparently at Hgrs, as pap reference of our position was despath ed per runner, seeM in which 1s mentioned presume wyou will The writer then took charge, come along to line wentioned reorganizing etc. Patrols were sent out to HESals at that hunctura which included Pte FRENCH who was killed by a sniper in that area. I think it wassigned Later on the order arrived to advance. Col Clarke, emnating from a Bda order, as it instructed the 23r Bn to co-operate in the movement also.

Stevenson S.
Taree
11.3.29
Captain C E W Bean
Sydney
Dear Captain Bean
Yours of the 5th
inst to hand re 17th March 1917
& I regret that all my books &
maps etc were lost when
I was evacuated gassed
in 1918 so that I cannot give
as full a report as I would
like. I am surprised that
the Battalion & Bde war diaries
are so poor as I wrote
the operation up very fully.
My memory however is fairly
clear on most of it.
The 30th Bn relieved the 31st
Bn in the line in front 
of Bapaume at 10.30pm on
the 16th Mch 1917. The distance
from Bapaume being approx
1000 x. The Co (Lt Col JW Clark DSO)  

 

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placed me in charge of the
line with instructions to keep
in touch with the enemy
as it was thought that
they were on the point of
retiring. This was borne out
by the silence of the enemy
only M Gun fire taking
place but he kept his
flares going. As soon as
the men had settled down
I sent out patrols but
they reported that the enemy
trenches were still held
although they did not think
there were many Germans
present. I thereupon
organised a Stokes Mortar
and bombing operation which
resulted in the capture of
about 200 x of the enemy
line Forty clearing out.
This was in the early hours
of the morning I would say
about 3am but cannot fix

 

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the time definitely. After establishing
our selves more patrols were
sent out & it was found
that Fritz was quite definitely
on the move & the whole
of the 30th advanced on
Bapaume about 5.30.am.
Patrols were sent ahead
& some skirmishing took 
place in Bapaume where
isolated parties of the enemy
tried to hold us up.
Whenever they made a stand
we would outflank them
when Fritzy would retire
with greater speed than
caution. Some enemy 
casualties being caused by
Lewis gun fire & Sniping
when they were retiring.
We mopped up the town
& established ourselves
on a line about 600 on
the other side. of the town
My headquarter's (which afterwards

 

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became Bn HQ being in
the ramparts. It is perhaps
worthy of mention that I
was never out of telephonic
communication during the
whole of the advance as
it was possible to salve
sufficient Fritz wire to 
link up.
I am sorry that
this is all the information 
I can give you & I sincerely 
hope it will be of some
use to you.
Yours sincerely
W J Cheeseman

 

.4151
4296.
18 March 1929.
Dear Colonel Cheeseman,
Many thanks for your notes concerning Bapaume.
I understand that at the entrance of one of the streets there
was met the fire of a machine-gun which killed one man and
wounded four. From your account and Barbour's, I take it
that this occurred when the patrols were sent forward into
the town, but should be glad of correction, if necessary.
From the accounts now obtained I also infer that, after
Barbour’s bombing stunt, the movement was made in four stages,
viz. -
(1) Patrols were sent forward into Till Trench, and,
on receipt of their reports, troops advanced (? to
Till Trench).
(2) Patrols were ^then, sent into the town, and were fired
on (when the abovementioned casualties occurred).
On receipt of their reports, the troops advanced
as far as the Peronne Road running through the
town.
(3) Here there was halt for 3½ hours - I assume that
this was due to waiting for orders. Patrols were
sent out. About 10.30 you arrived, and sent out
fresh patrols down streets parallel to those held
by the German machine-gun crew, which then cleared
out. You then ordered the advance to the eastern
outskirts of Bapaume.
[*At Barbour's
position*]
(4) This advance was afterwards continued to the line
finally taken up 600 yards east of the town.
I should like to be clear especially as to whether
in movement (2) the troops advanced behind the patrols without
stopping in Till Trench, and, if so, to what point they
advanced; secondly, whether the casualties occurred as
mentioned above; and thirdly, whether the dislodgment of the
last enemy post in Bapaume was effected in the manner
described.
Yours sincerely,
Lieut.-Colonel W.J.R. Cheeseman, D.S.O., M.C.,
Stevenson Street,
Taree. N.S.W.

 

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Taree
22 3 /29
Captain CEW Bean
Sydney
Dear Captain Bean
Yours of the
18th inst to hand & as far as 
I can remember the following are
the facts in answer to your
questions.
1 Troop advanced to Till Trench.
2 Correct. Casualties did occur.
I am not sure if Peronne Road
was exact location but think
it probable.
3 Correct essentially but dont
think the halt was 3½ hours or
that it was 10 30am before I arrived.
However, Barbour probably has been
fortunate enough to preserve his records
4 O.K.
Yours. f fully
W J Cheeseman 

 

FL.4151
4250.
5 March 1929.
Captain T.C. Barbour,
Box 2818M, G.P.0.,
Sydney.
Dear Barbour,
I am writing the account of 17 March 1917, but find
to my astonishment, that there is no detailed narrative
whatever in the brigade or battalion war-diary dealing with the
fighting of the previous night or early morning or giving
any times. In particular, I should be grateful if I could
obtain an account of what happened during the preceding
night and early that morning, and evidence as to what
originated the discovery that the Germans had retired, as well as
facts and times connected with the advance to and through
Bapaume. If you have any notes concerning this, or if your
recollection is sufficiently vivid, I should be grateful for
any assistance which you could give me. For the time being
I am leaving the story a blank and proceeding with the rest
of the narrative. I am writing also to Colonels Cheeseman
and Clark.
Yours sincerely,

 

H.N.
Box 2022S. GPO.
Melbourne 9/3/29.
Mr. C. EW Bean
Official Historian,
Dear Sir,
Your communication of the 5 Ins was re-addressed
to me in Melbourne, and I am forwarding under separate
cover MSS entitled "Bapaume and Beyond" which may
be of some use regarding your enquiries for times etc.
The 30 Bn. took over relief of the front line trenches
about midnight 16/17 March, and therefore cannot furnish
any information prior to that hour as to conditions, but
evidence of the German retirement on 'D' Coy Sectns early
on the morning of 17 March is given on P5, when a bombing
Party including Sgts Smith ^M.M and Forbes (Forbes later
obtained Commission Rank), bombed along a sap West
of Bapaume, on D Coys. right flank, as per Capt
Cheesemans minor operation order.
On the same page time is given 7.15 am when D.
Co. were well established in the centre of the Town without
much opposition, where they remained some considerable time,
aln the messages timed, 10.30 am to advance through
the town to new posts on line H28a25 to H28C32
East of Bapaume, where D .Co drove out parties
of the Germans, & remained there several hours
with both flanks in the air, until the 23 Bn and
another Company of the 30 Bn on our right which had
been held up, advanced, and ^thus completed the line
as described in the MSS.
The total advance of D. Co 30 Bn from our
old front line on the 17th March was about 2 miles
Ground flares (smoke) were used to define our
posts to our aircraft, but they were damp and of little use,
but when the plane arrived, we managed to attract
attention per means of ground sheets etc.
Some messages & times on timing matters are
included on pages 9 and 10, also brief extracts with
times are given of some events on the follwg day March
18th on p. 13. All messages & are from field note
book. Written during the Bapaume operation.
As the MSS forwarded is the only fair copy available
will you kindly return same after perusal to my Box
No. 2022S Melbourne as above.
Yours faithfully
T.C. Barbour Capt 30 Bn
PS
Sgt. D, Smith mentioned above was recommended
by the writer for his MM. which he obtained for his excellent
work during the Bapaume operation. He attended the Bn
reunion last year in Sydney, and revived many incidents &
the Bapaume Sector, particularly the joy of our men when they
took up position East of Bapaume & found themselves on firm
soil away from the muddy trenches of the Somme.
He is engaged in the Public Works Dept Sydney
should you care to get in touch with him. 

 

4151
4295.
18 March 1929.
Dear Barbour,
Many thanks for your notes concerning Bapaume, which
I will shortly return. They have been very useful.
I understand that at the entrance of one of the streets
there was met the fire of a machine-gun which killed one man and
wounded four. From your account and Cheeseman's, I take it
that this occurred when the patrols were sent forward into the
town, but should be glad of correction, if necessary.  From
your accounts now obtained I also infer that, after your bombing
stunt, the movement was made in four stages, viz.-
(1) Patrols were sent forward into Till Trench, and,
on receipt of their reports, troops advanced (? to
Till Trench).
(2) Patrols were ^then sent into the town, and were fired on
(when the abovementioned casualties occurred). On
receipt of their reports, the troops advanced as far
as the Peronne Road running through the town.
(3) Here there was a halt for 3½ hours - I assume that
this was due to waiting for orders. Patrols were
sent out. About 10.30 Cheeseman arrived and sent out
fresh patrols down streets parallel to those held by
the Ge rman machine-gun crew, which then cleared out.
Cheeseman then ordered the advance to the eastern
outskirts of Bapaume.
(4) This advance was afterwards continued to the line
finally taken up 600 yards east of the town.
I should like to be clear especially as to whether
any movement (2) the troops advanced behind the patrols without
stopping in Till Trench, and, if so, to what point they advanced,
Secondly, whether the casualties occurred as mentioned above;
and thirdly, whether the dislodgment of the last enemy post in
Bapaume was effected in the manner described.
Yours sincerely,
T.C. Barbour, Esq.,
Box 2022S, G.P.O.,
Melbourne. 

 

.Box 2022S., G.P.O.
Melbourne.
Box 2818 N G.P.O.
SYDNEY
T. C. BARBOUR
ARCHITECT
23rd March 1929. 192
"STRUCTURAL
FAULTS
AND
BUILDING
FEATURES"
COPYRIGHT
1925
"YOUR HOME"
ADVICE
TO
PROPERTY
BUYERS
AN
ARCHITECT'S
VIEWS
2ND EDITION
T.C. BARBOUR
Mr C.E.W.Bean, Official Historian,
Victoria Barracks, SYDNEY.
Dear Sir,
Your letter of the 18th inst to hand with
enquiries/regarding Bapaume, and some of the following points
may assist you in the matter.
re TILL TRENCH etc. I have no knowledge of the stoppage
referred to.  At the time of the advance the writer was on the
Right flank with Bombing party established in position described
in adance of the Company sector, but Capt Cheeseman who was on th
North (left) should have definite knowledge as to the halt in
TILL TR.  After taking the sap referred to the writer desatch
a patrol from the bombing party under Sgt SMITH M.M. to exploit
further ahead (time about 5-30 am., see enclosed notes), and they
roamed over the old Factory at H32d9½5 which was found empty.
If you have a map of the locality it will show our positi
at that stage on the Right, the factory being several hundred
yards Easts of themain posts. in Warlencourt Tr. Information
of this further move on the part of the bombing party was then
despatched to Hqrs. Shortly after the above incident patrols
moved out to "C - C" on enclosed sketch, which may be TILL Tr.
as described by Capt Cheeseman. (I am unable at this stage to
recollect the name, in any case it is not marked on sketch).
From the ad^vanced post on the Right, the writer then
observed the line extending to the North, move forward, quite a
unique sight/at the time ^after months of trench warfare to see our men emerge from the trenches
and advance unopposed towards the Town. From what I could
see of the move there was no halt in the vicinity, and no
doubt the 23rd Bn was also moving forward on our left again.
The writer at this stage received a meassage to bring up the
supports left in Warlencourt Tr. and proceed forward to Bapaume..
Instructions were then given to the Bombing Party
to conform to the movement, and protect the Right flank of
the Co. as they moved forward. The writer then hurried
back to Warlencourt Tr and brought up the reserves, passing over
the track described by Capt Cheeseman (Till Tr) but met no
troops in occupation, and arrived in Bapaume on the heels of tehe
main body. Sgt Smith and his arty were als located, they
had gone clean through to Bapaume without opposition on the Right
The position established in the Town was that given in
the map references, which you describe as the PERONNE Rd.
I cannot recollect meeting Capt Cheeseman at the time
of my arrival, or meeting any wounded by M.G. fire He was
apparently at Hgrs., as map reference of our position was despatched
per runner, see memo MSS, in which 1s mentioned "presume xyou will 
come along to line mentioned". The writer then took charge,
reorganizing etc.
Patrols were sent out to H28a15 at that juncture which
included Pte FRENCH who was killed by a sniper in that area.
Later on the order arrived to advance. I think it was/signed by
Col Clarke, emanating from a Bde order, as it instructed the 23r
Bn to co-operate in the movement also.

 


  

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