Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/237/1 - October 1914 - 1918 - Part 9

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Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to enator G.F.Pearce, dated 13th May 1918. I was sent for yesterday to go to G.H.C., when the C.G.S. informed me that the Commander-in-Chief wished me to take over at once the command of the 5th Army out here. and I believe a great many others here, had always realised that this might happen, simply owing to my seniority, but I personally had trusted that it would not come my way, and, as I think I told you, I had let it be generally known that I did not wish to leave the command of this corps for anything else. When, therefore, the C.G.S. announced the Commander-in-Chief's wishes, I at once asked him if this was an order, or if it was open to me to refuse. I pointed out that I had now been with the corps for 3; years, and that, rather than leave it, I was prepared to give up all prospects of advancement as I wished to serve to the end with the men who had been with me all this time. He told me that my name had already been submitted to the Cabinet, and that in time of war like the present, it was not a case of being offered an appointment, but of orders being issued to take it up; if however, I was absolutely and definitely to decline to take over the command, that the Commander-in-Chief would of course consider it. He urged me, however, before I took such action, to consider the following fact, viz., that my refusal to move on would mean that I hould block promotion, and that no Australian officer could hope to command the corps, while he considered that it was most probable that Australia would be most gratified at the fact of her corps commander being selected to command an army, and being succeeded by an Australian officer. To this argument there was of course no reply, and to my own personal reluctance and with feelings of real grief, I had to acquiesee. I told the C.G.S. how anxious Australia had always been to see an "Australian "Army", and how Mr HUGHES had mentioned this to the Commander-in-Chief when he was here in 1916, when the Chief said that our numbers, viz., six divisions (including the New Zealand Division) were too small to justify the formation of an Anzac Army. The C.G.S. said, however, he realised that the Australian troops appreciated being with me, and that it was therefore the Chief's intention, whenever it could be done compatible with the tactical situation, that these troops were to form part of my Army. As a matter of fact, the ist Division, which has been away from the rest of the corps for some little time, will immediately form part of the 5th Army, and it is the Chief's present intention to remove the four other divisions up to it, when opportunity occurs for doing this, but, as he pointed out, it is naturally quite impossible to make anything like a promise that these divisions shall always remain with me, though it will, I know, mean much to them to be able to realise that they can look to my Army as their more or less permanent home, to which they will be able to return on the completion of any necessary periods of service elsewhere, while I hope that casualty clearing stations and other troops which do not belong to the corps, will be concentrated in my Army. The question then came up regarding my successor in the corps, I said there were three officers here, any one of whom I think could succeed me, viz., Generals MONASH, HOBBS and WHITE, who as you know, stand in that seniority. Of HOBBS, I'am perhaps just a little doubtful as a corps commander, though I have the highest opinion of him as a divisional-general - indeed, my opinion in that respect could not be higher, for he is so absolutely thorough, able, loyal and courageous. I am, however, a little uncertain as to his strength to command a corps, for though I say it in no means deprecatory to him; I know it is a comfort to him to realise that he can always unburden his troubles on me with reliance on my support, without which he might perhaps at times bea little lost.
75 There remain MONASH and WHITE, in both of whom I should WHITE having heen have absolute confidence as corps commanders. so intimately with me during the last 3: years, I naturally have not only the greatest respect and admiration for his ability, but the deepest affection for him in his fine character and lovable nature. I regard him as one of the ablest officers with whom it has been my privilege to serve, and it is perhaps on account of this intimate personal knowledge that I should almost be inclined to put him first in my opinion. I feel, however, it has been quite impossible to contemplate superseding MONASH in the recommendation I have made to you. He has commanded first a brigade and then a division in this force without I think a day's intermission since our training days in Egypt in January, 1915, to Of his ability, there can be no possible the present time. Also, he has had doubt, nor of his keenness and knowledge. almost unvarying success in all the operations undertaken by his division, which has I know the greatest confidence in him. I am aware, of course, of the feeling there was against him in Australia, when he was first appointed to the brigade command, owing to, I understand, his German origin, but this has, I think, been entirely lived down, as far as the A.I.F. is concerned, by his Therefore, as I said in my recommendation, I do not good work. think we could in justice overlook in any way his undoubted claims and equally undoubted ability to fill the appointment. That is as far as the actual corps is concerned. As I told you in my letter of 12th March, McCAY was then anxious for me to appoint him to the command of a division out here in order that he might come into the running for the command of the I, however, told him so distinctly corps in the event of my going. that I could not see my way to this, that I understand he at once gave up all hope in this respect, though he still retained the strong wish to succeed me in my capacity as G.O.C., A.I.F., and I gathered from GRIFFITHS that it was on this account he was anxious to be recognised as the sole head of both depots and administration in England; but, as you know, he later on acquiesced in my refusal to recommend such an appointment. When what I look upon as this bomb-chell as regards my leaving the corps came, I let out three senior officers here MONASH, HOBBS and WHITE, know about it, but I have not yet allowed it to be made public pending a reply to my telegram to you on the All three were nice enough to say that they very much subject. regretted the fact that I was to go, though it means promotion, and I feel I can say, without appearing to flatter myself, that they were particularly exercised as regards the carrying on of the When I informed them that I hoped administration of the A.I.F. it might be possible for me still to retain this, they each separatelv said that in their opinion it was, as far as they MONASH, as could see, the only satisfactory way of carrying on. G.O.C. the corps would, I think, have a very difficult time with McCAY, who would al,ost certainly wish to be G.O.C., A.I.F., but I honestly feel that such an appointment would really be impossible for none of our senior generals seem to have real confidence in him, and look upon the possibility of his appointment as such with the greatest apprehension; HOBBS going so far as to say that he felt he would not be able to carry on in command of his division, were McCAY so appointed. It is certainly most unfortunate that this should be the case, as I so fully recognise not only McCAY'S great ability, but his whole-hearted keenness on the A.I.F. and its efficiency, but he seems to have such a very unfortunate manner of rubbing everybody up the wrong way, and of being out of sympathy with all. CHAUVEL, as I have previously mentioned, is our senior officer, but the fact that he is in Egypt makes it impossible to consider him for here, and, indeed, I know that the Commander-in- Chief would absolutely refuse to accept him as a corps commander with his entire lack of experience of conditions of fighting in France.
76 In this connection, I trust you will not have thought that I have anything but the good of this force in view, in suggesting that I should retain the appointment of G.O.C., A.I.F. but it has struck me that in addition to being able to co-ordinate the work between the different branches, now that I have had this in my hands during the last 3 years, I may I hope be able to be of some service when the days of demobilisation arrive. I well realise how difficult those times will be, and if I am still with the force, I shall hope to be able to do what I can to help. I trust that you will not think that I have unduly laboured the whole of this matter, and that you will realise I write toayou as openly as I do confidentially, and for your personal information, but I have thought it only right to let you kno every detail as it strikes me - as I say, for your own information. There remains the question of General WHITE, whom I have told you the Commander-in-Chief has nominated for Major-General, General Staff, of my Army. It is, as you will realise, an extremely important appointment, second only to that of C.G.S. at G.H.C. I can think of no one more admirably fitted to fill it than WHITE, while his experience in it will be of the greatest value to Australia in time to come. I, of course, realise what his removal from the corps will mean, but on my going I think he would in any case have wished to go to a division rather than to remain on the Staff, while we have three or four brigadiers, all of whom are suited for divisional command, and who should be gaining experience as such. Only a short time ago, General WALKER, in whose division BLAMEY is G.S.O.I., recommended him for the appointment of B.G.G.S., and I was on the point of sending in his name for such to an English corps. Now, however, that this vacancy has occurred, it provides an excellent opportunity for BLAMEY (whose appointment I have discussed with MONASH) and, of course, with WHITE) and I trust that he will do well in it. MONASH has himself naturally all the ability to judge of this. I shortly expect to have two further divisional vacancies, as well as that of MONASH, as I have for some time been urging G.H.C. to transfer Generals SMYTH and WALKER to English divisions, in order that we may be able to advance Australian officers. It had been my intention to put up the names of ROSENTHAL and GLASGOW to you in that order for these vacancies, as they stand in that order on the list of brigadiers whom I consider suitable. Now, however, that MONASH'S vacancy has come first, I have made an alteration in this, and recommended GELLIBRAND to you vo succeed him in the 3rd Division, though I still propose to recommend ROSENTHAL and GLASGOW when the other two divisions fall vacant. My reason for this is that in the 3rd Division we have XXXEE McNICOLL as our senior brigadier. He is an excellent, hard-working, honest, keen and loyal brigadier, of whom MONASH has a high opinion, and who has always done his best in the most self. sacrificing manner. MONASH has been inclined to consider him for divisional command, but on discussing it thoroughly, he agrees with me that, good as McNICOLL is as a brigadier, he hardly at present possesses the necessary qualifications for the far more important divisional command. He would, however, feel it a good deal if ROSENTHAL, who is in the same division, were to go over his head, while we hope he will not have the same feelings when GELLIBRAND, who is a Staff College officer with many years' experience axxx of regular soldiering and who has also been continuously with us since October,1914, is given the command of the division, and I trust that this will be the case. As the appointments to all three divisions are likely to occur within a short period, it will not matter much as to the order in which they go. Should GELLIBRAND'S health fail, (which is the one point I am ever in doubt about him) BRAND would I think be the next to move up in his place, for he continues to prove himself such an excellent officer.
Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 15th June 1918. I am so sorry to have just had to send you a telegram about a successor to Brigadier-General R. SMITH, as I much regret I have had to replace him. He has proved himself a real sterling hard fighting soldier, for whom I have had the greatest respect and admiration, after seeing a very great deal of him ever since he took over his brigade command, and He has looked the even before when he commanded a battalion. picture of health and a real strong man, but rather suddenly has developed what I understand is ulceration of the stomach, for which he was sent to England. I had every hope that he would be back with us shortly, but apparently the trouble has proved worse than was anticipated, and I have received a report from our medical board there that he must be invalided to Australia. I hope you may perhaps see him on arrival, and let him know how highly we thought of him; I am indeed sorry to have lost his services. Colonel MARTIN, who takes his place, is however a real good solid and reliable man, and will I am sure do well. An, alteration in establishment has just been made by G.H.C., and this, though small on the surface, will yet help us considerably as regards numbers. The establishment of an infantry battalion has been reduced from 966 to 900, which, you will see, means a reduction from our kaitzkiozz 60 battalions of some 4,000 men, and this will be of considerable help to us.
78 Copy of private letter from General Talbot HOBBS to Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 27th June 1918. Headquarters, 5th Australian Division 27th June, 1918. My dear Senator Pearce, Years ago you were good enough to tell me that I might, if I wished, write you direct on any subject of importance connected with the Military Forces of the Commonwealth. I have never done so hitherto but lately events of the most vital importance affecting the future welfare of the Australian Imperial Forcehave occurred, which induce me now to take advantage of the privilege you extended to me. The matters I refer to are fully set forth and explained in a letter to you from General MONASH, dated the 21st instant. This letter, which I have carefully read, I entirely agree with änd feel I am perfectly justified in expressing the opinion that theletter represents the views of the great majority of all ranks of the A.I.F. General MONASH has so clearly stated out views that it is quite un-necessary for me to traverse and endorse his letter in detail. I desire however while emphasising the importance of the sublects mentioned in the letter, specially to refer to other changes which I understand are likely to follow the proposed displacement of General BIRLWOOD from the position he now holds as G.O.C., A.I.F. It is I believe, proposed by the gentlemen in London referred to by General MONASH in his letter to remove General MONASH from the command of the Australian Corps and to appoint him Administrative Head in London of the Australian Imperial Force, replacing him by General C.B.B.WHITE in command of the Australian Corps. Why this is considered necessary I am quite at a loss to know. What I do know, however, is that it would mean the loss to the A.I.F. of a commander of very great ability and exceptional energy and experience, who enjoys absolutely the complete confidence and respect of the A.I.F. as a fighting leader, to be relegated to a position where he would practically become a nonétity, owing to the causes stated and the reasons given on page 3, para. )3 and following paras, of General MONASH'S letter of the As already stated, General WHITE is to be taken from his 21st instant. position as M.G.G.S. 5th Army to command the Australian Corps - taken from a position where his great ability, initiative, knowledge and experience are certainly going to be of the greatest value to the Armv, the Empire, and the cause for which we are fighting; a position for which he is peculiarly suited and which many of us fully believe to be but a step to another Staff appointment of much greater importance in the future, and one which we feel certain he has the ability and qualifications to fill with very great credit to himself, invaluable advantage to the Empire's Armies, and distinguished honour and ultimate immense advantage to Australia. Moreover, I have ood reason to believe that both General MQNASH and General WHITE are entirely adverse to the changes proposed for them and to which it is quite possible they may (and justly so) object to. Supposing that they should feel so strongly in this matter that they should resign rather than agree to the changes, it would prowably mean that the A.I.F. would lose in addition to General BIRDWOOD both Generals MONASH and WHITE. The consequences of such a possibility can only be regarded as disastrous to the A.I.F., for we have not the men who could replace them. General MONASH undoubtedly, for many reasons, is the best man to command the Corps, and I am sure that General WHITE agrees with me. General MONASH'S appointment has been most popular with all ranks of the A.I.F. in France and his removal would be looked upon with wonder, and possibly with suspicion, and would be sure to give rise to all sorts of rumours which might be exceedingly unpleasant and painful to General MONASH. I am sure I am voicing the opinion of the majority of all ranks of the A.I.F. and certainly of the Corps and Divisional Commanders (who ought to be, and are, the best judges of what is required in the best interests of the fighting men of the A.I.F. in France) in urging to the utmost that before any alterations in the
controllst tke h.Faremade shat MrHngles dhon noved ag vnavel avks ard e) Gousad ode andd obtaintherd Biwinon "erevnrallng S avgil søvooo dbe onbgertt. present administration andGeneral MONASH has not'in the pborde Slightest degree exaggerated the invaluable sefvices rendered aat to Australia and the A.I.F. by General BIRLWOOD during the time he has been associated with us, and I am most emphatically seer ) S at edwörek of opinion that the severance of his present relationship epler with the A.I.F. would not only be most unpopular with the force, gedardt bet put would be entirely to the disadvantage of Australia. No man sard aldeor could have more devotedly studied the interests of Australia she hesent and her soldiers than General BIRDWOOD has done, and I am confident hütherg that nothing would induce him to sacrifice Australia's interests, aktesmehrehir ovoke Lorpprd either for his own or any other person's or persons' advantage. Surely it is best to leave well alone. Everything at the present time to the best of my knowledge and belief is going on smoothly and well with the A.I.F. in France and the reputation of the Australian soldier has never been, and can hardly ever be expected to be higher than at the present moment. If there is trouble, it is in England and certainly not with the A.I.F. in France, where the only probable complaint or discontent which may exist is among a few senior officers who are perhaps disappointed with the selections and recent command appointments to divisions and brigades. It would be a thousand pities - in fact it would be, I fear, disastrous, at this critical time to make the drastic changes in the higher appointments of the A.I.F. which are suggested, and, I believe, seriously contemplated; It would certainly mean discord and distraction among men whose one and only thought at this crisis in our history should be centred on one thing and one alone - the defeat of our enemies and the triumph of our cause. I am, Yours very sincerely, (Sgd) J.Talbot Kobos.
80 Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 6th August. 1918. I am sure you will realise with what great regret I have wired to you regarding General GRIFFITHS' wish to return to Australia. I would have refused to think of this, had I consulted only my own wishes but, as he points out, he has done four years' good and loyal work for us, during which I think I may say he has hardly had five minutes He points out that both he and his wife are holiday or real rest. getting on in years, and the long separation at their time of life He told me that you had been so means à great deal to them. extremely kind as to offer to send Mrs. Griffiths and his girls over to England, which would have been a possible solution of the I understand, however, that Mrs. Griffiths has a highly difficulty, nervous temperament, and he fears that once she gets into the danger He has therefore zone, it would be altogether too much for her. had reluctantly to put aside all idea of this, and to apply that he may be released. He had written out to me about this, but I told him I would decide nothing until I could have a talk with him, when the opportunity offered on my going over to London for the opening of Australia House. I can hardly exaggerate the loyal and good work which GRIFFITHS has done to, I think I may say, the complete satisfaction of every member of the A.I.F., and undoubtedly to the great advantage of it He is, I know, in ways extremely sorry to be and of the country. leaving, but he tells me he thinks he should go. I am afraid that it is impossible to disguise the fact that at the present moment there is undoubtedly a certain feeling of unrest and being unsettled among a large number of our senior officers a feeling wnich is naturally very undesirable, and, to some extent, I attributt /GRIFFITHS' wish to go now to this feeling, which he has acknowledged ne certainly had. This is of course due, as you will know, to the apparently unsettled question as to what is to be the future of the command of the A.I.F. I may mention that You were kind personally I know nothing officially about this. enough to inform me of the decision of the Commonwealth Government that I should retain the command, and on this I am entirely acting. When Mr HUGHES came over here, I had, as I told you, an interview He then asked me what my position was with him on the 17th June. Since then, I with our troops, which I fully explained to him. have heard nothing more on the subject, beyond the fact that when Mr HUGHES visited France, he spoke to all the divisional-generals who, I believe, one and all urged that no further changes should Beyond that, I know nothing, except that from all sides be made. we hear of continual discussions as to changes in the future which as I say are, as is only natural, upsetting to work. As a matter of fact, two or three of our senior officers told me they would wish to return to Australia, but I pointed out how their duty lies to retain their commands whatever happens, as our one and only idea must simply be to do our best for the A.I.F., and Australia generally - this I am sure all will do to the end. In this connection I enclose a copy of a telegram which I recently received from CHAUVEL, and to which I was only able to reply I took a copy with me to that I knew little about the matter. London, as I thought it only right that Mr HUGHES should see it. As there was no opportunity for my having a talk with him (he was naturally fearfully busy) I gave this copy to General HOWSE, who was dining with him, and who I know showed it to him. I understand that Mr HUGHES was not prepared to take any notice whatever of it. It is, I think, however, only right that it should be considered, as there can be no question of the really good service which CHAUVEL has done since the beginning of the war, and being as he is our senior officer, he will naturally feel very hurt if he is superseded. I trust that this and other difficulties may be overcome by the However, this has all come present arrangements being continued. as a diversion, for I was really writing about GRIFFITHS, and my regret at the prospects of losing him. I have thought very deeply over the question of a possible successor to him, and after going over every name have come to the
8i conclusion that the one man who seems suitable in all respects is General DODDS. He at first absolutely refused to be considered for the appointment. He told me that when he first came from Australia, he thought it was an appointment which he might like, but that now his one wish was to remain with me in the field. have found him most admirable in his present appointment, and very much indeed regret the possibility of losing him from my side, for I feel I can always turn to him for good and sound advice. When I put the concrete question to him to succeed GRIFFITHS, he again told me he was not prepared to do so; but on placing the question of Australia's interests fully before him, he had to agree that he could not himself suggest the name of any other man who could carry out the work fairly satisfactorily. I pointed out to him that we had to realise that the position of G.O.C. in charge of Administration in London would probably increase in importance owing to the great work which will devolve upon it when demobilisation comes on, and for which it is essential to have a man of good practical knowledge, who could be relied on to work in with the War Office and the Admiralty on the many arrangements involving both departments. On seeing it in this light, DODDS had to realise that in Australian interests, he could no longer refuse. He, however, like GRIFFITHS, told me that he was feeling the very unsettled state owing to these rumours of contemplated changes. In this connection, too, I gather from GRIFFITHS that he understood that General McCAY was again urging that he should be in charge of both troops training in England and the Administration and that in asking for his return to Australia, he had this fact also in mind, as he felt he could not work satisfactorily under General McCAY. DODDS tells me that he has exactly the same feelings and that he would only accept the appointment provided he is not placed in that position, and he adds if he can feel he has the complete confidence in your Government. I have told him that he could rely on both these proviso, and I trust that things will be satisfactorily settled. I understand that the much debated question of the Gallipoli Star will shortly be settled.- I sincerely hope so, as the real brave fellows who went through all the fighting there have, as it is, already been kept far too long from wearing a little bit of ribbon, upon which they rightly lay so much value and stress. What the actual details will eventually be, I do not know, not that they really very much matter, for all we want is to give what we can as a very small recognition of the gallant service done by our men there. From what I hear, however, I am much afraid that there is no prospect of the 29th Division or the two magnificent Indian Mountain Batteries who fought alongside us at Anzac, being made eligible for the decoration. I think that every single Australian will regret this most deeply, and I cannot help thinking that it is a stupid and narrow-minded view which has been taken by the War Office, and has prevented their inclusion. I feel, however, that I am only out to fight the battle for the Australians, and I hope that the action which I originally took in the matter will, at all events, have ensured justice for them. There has been some talk lately of the formation of an A. and N.Z. Army, to consist of our five divisions and the N.Z. Division forming two corps of three divisions each. As far as I can gather, all our people and the New Zealanders are most enthusiastic about the idea, and, looking ahead, it would seem to me to be extremely desirable from the national point of view of both Australia and New Zealand. There can be no doubt about it that both Dominions must be as one in matters of defence in the Pacific, and I cannot help thinking that, as years go on, they must work absolutely whole-heartedly together in every possible way. All agree that the time, during which we formed one force, and fought literally shoulder to shoulder at Gallipoli, did an enormous amount to bring our men together in the best possible
way. Since the New Zealanders left the Australian Corps, the tendency has been for them to drift apart again, and this I know all the best officers of both forces regret. If they can again be brought together now in one army, and remain so until the end of the war, I am sure that a really great stroke from the Imperial point of view will have been made. When I began this letter to you, it was with the idea that GRIFFITHS wouldreturn permanently to Australia - which was his own definite petition. gather, however, that as a result of conversation with General HOWSE, he has been persuaded to modify this, and to ask for five months' leave only - to be allowed to proceed to and return from Australia with General HOWSE. As this would seem to be all in the best general interests of Australia, have welcomed it, as I realise that there will be so much to do when demobilisation comes, that his services will probably be of very great value then - while there will also be lots for DODDS to do here. GRIFFITHS brought with him the terms of the Gallipoli Star. By restricting this to those who actually landed on the Peninsula I am afraid it will cut out our nurses and medical officers, who did such extremely good work under very trying circumstances in hospitals at Mudros. I feel that this would result in real heart. burning, and as they there were subjected to the same dangers from disease as we were on the Peninsula, I am hoping that the terms will be modified, se as to make those actually on the Islands, and on the hospital ships plying between them and the Peninsula, eligible for the decoration. This I am sure would be the absolute wishes of everyone who served at Gallipoli. I have not wired to you about it owing to the delay which would result in the issue of the Star at all, but I am writing urging for reconsideration, to which I hope you will agree. 82
83 Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 23rd August. 1918. I can so well understand your feelings as regards General WHITE, for I really do regard him as just about the best of our magnificent Australian officers. At the same time, I am sure that you will realise that it was impossible for me to advise you that he should succeed me in the corps, without fully considering the claims of General MONASH, whose work, since he took over from me has more than justified my recommendation to you and your decision on the subject. Also, from the first I have felt that it would be all to the advantage of Australia that General WHITE'S great ability should be given the opportunity of the further and considerably wider experience which he must gain as Chief Staff Officer of an Army. Each Army in turn is called upon to undertake large and independent operations and as the Chief Staff Officer of such a force, he gains experience which is absolutely invaluable. Also, my own personal opinion is that General WHITE is probably the best and ablest of the staff officers in the Armies in France, and should by any chance the present Chief of the General Staff vacate his appointment, I should personally have no hesitation in recommending that General WHITE should succeed him. Whether such a contingency will ever occur, it is impossible to say, but I am quite convinced that Australia would be really glad to know that one of her officers could occupy such a position. If he did so, the experience gained would be such as neither he nor Australia could possibly have contemplated when he came out here as G.S.O.1. of our 1st Division. General WHITE has, himself, fully deserved every honour and advancement that has come to him, for I know no more able, loyal and whole-hearted worker than he is. Also, he is one of I very often those men who never spare themselves in any way. try to induce him not to work so much, and allow others to relieve him, but he is so extremely thorough that he will, I am afraid, never consent to do this. I am only a little afraid that he is becoming somewhat worn out, and I should much like to think that he could have a few months' rest. This may, or may not, be possible as a result of the decision which may be arrived at during the next few days.

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Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to
Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 13th May, 1918.


I was sent for yesterday to go to G.H.Q., when the C.G.S. 
informed me that the Commander-in-Chief wished me to take over
at once the command of the 5th Army out here. I and I believe a 
great many others here, had always realised that this might happen, 
simply owing to my seniority, but I personally had trusted that 
it would not come my way, and, as I think I told you, I had let it be 
generally known that I did not wish to leave the command of this 
corps for anything else.  When, therefore, the C.G.S. announced 
the Commander-in-Chief's wishes, I at once asked him if this was an 
order, or if it was open to me to refuse.  I pointed out that I 
had now been with the corps for 3½ years, and that, rather than 
leave it, I was prepared to give up all prospects of advancement 
as I wished to serve to the end with the men who had been with me 
all this time.  He told me that my name had already been submitted 
to the Cabinet, and that in time of war like the present, it was 
not a case of being offered an appointment, but of orders being 
issued to take it up; if however, I was absolutely and definitely 
to decline to take over the command, that the Commander-in-Chief 
would of course consider it.  He urged me, however, before I took
such action, to consider the following fact, viz., that my refusal 
to move on would mean that I should block promotion, and that no 
Australian officer could hope to command the corps, while he 
considered that it was most probable that Australia would be most
gratified at the fact of her corps commander being selected to 
command an army, and being succeeded by an Australian officer. 
To this argument there was of course no reply, and to my own 
personal reluctance and with feelings of real grief, I had to
acquiesce.

I told the C.G.S. how anxious Australia had always been 
to see an "Australian "Army", and how Mr HUGHES had mentioned this 
to the Commander-in-Chief when he was here in 1916, when the Chief 
said that our numbers, viz., six divisions (including the New 
Zealand Division ) were too small to justify the formation of an 
Anzac Army.  The C.G.S. said, however, he realised that the 
Australian troops appreciated being with me, and that it was 
therefore the Chief's intention, whenever it could be done 
compatible with the tactical situation, that these troops were to 
form part of my Army.  As a matter of fact, the 1st Division, 
which has been away from the rest of the corps for some little 
time, will immediately form part of the 5th Army, and it is the 
Chief's present intention to remove the four other divisions up 
to it, when opportunity occurs for doing this, but, as he pointed 
out, it is naturally quite impossible to make anything like a promise 
that these divisions shall always remain with me, though it will, 
I know, mean much to them to be able to realise that they can look 
to my Army as their more or less permanent home, to which they will 
be able to return on the completion of any necessary periods of 
service elsewhere, while I hope that casualty clearing stations
and other troops which do not belong to the corps, will be 
concentrated in my Army.

The question then came up regarding my successor in the 
corps,  I said there were three officers here, any one of whom I 
think could succeed me, viz., Generals MONASH, HOBBS and WHITE, who, 
as you know, stand in that seniority.  Of HOBBS, I 'am perhaps just 
a little doubtful as a corps commander, though I have the highest 
opinion of him as a divisional-general - indeed, my opinion in that 
respect could not be higher, for he is so absolutely thorough, able, 
loyal and courageous.  I am, however, a little uncertain as to his 
strength to command a corps, for though I say it in no means 
deprecatory to him; I know it is a comfort to him to realise that 
he can always unburden his troubles on me with reliance on my 
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There remains MONASH and WHITE, in both of whom I should 
have absolute confidence as corps commanders.  WHITE having  been 
so intimately with me during the last 3½ years, I naturally have 
not only the greatest respect and admiration for his ability, but 
the deepest affection for him in his fine character and lovable 
nature.  I regard him as one of the ablest officers with whom it 
has been my privilege to serve, and it is perhaps on account of 
this intimate personal knowledge that I should almost be inclined 
to put him first in my opinion.  I feel, however, it has been 
quite impossible to contemplate superseding MONASH in the 
recommendation I have made to you.  He has commanded first a 
brigade and then a division in this force without I think a day's
intermission since our training days in Egypt in January, 1915, to 
the present time.  Of his ability, there can be no possible 
doubt, nor of his keenness and knowledge.  Also, he has had 
almost unvarying success in all the operations undertaken by his 
division, which has I know the greatest confidence in him. 
I am aware, of course, of the feeling there was against him in 
Australia, when he was first appointed to the brigade command, 
owing to, I understand, his German origin, but this has, I think, 
been entirely lived down, as far as the A.I.F. is concerned, by his 
good work.  Therefore, as I said in my recommendation, I do not 
think we could in justice overlook in any way his undoubted 
claims and equally undoubted ability to fulfil fill the appointment.

That is as far as the actual corps is concerned.

As I told you in my letter of 12th March, McCAY was then 
anxious for me to appoint him to the command of a division out here 
in order that he might come into the running for the command of the 
corps in the event of my going.  I, however, told him so distinctly 
that I could not see my way to this, that I understand he at once 
gave up all hope in this respect, though he still retained the 
strong wish to succeed me in my capacity as G.O.C., A.I.F., and I 
gathered from GRIFFITHS that it was on this account he was anxious 
to be recognised as the sole head of both depots and administration
in England; but, as you know, he later on acquiesced in my refusal 
to recommend such an appointment.

When what I look upon as this bomb-shell as regards my 
leaving the corps came, I let our three senior officers here - 
MONASH, HOBBS and WHITE, know about it, but I have not yet allowed 
it to be made public pending a reply to my telegram to you on the 
subject.  All three were nice enough to say that they very much 
regretted the fact that I was to go, though it means promotion, 
and I feel I can say, without appearing to flatter myself, that they 
were particularly exercised as regards the carrying on of the 
administration of the A.I.F.  When I informed them that I hoped 
it might be possible for me still to retain this, they each 
separately said that in their opinion it was, as far as they 
could see, the only satisfactory way of carrying on.  MONASH, as 
G.O.C. the corps would, I think, have a very difficult time with 
McCAY, who would al,ost certainly wish to be G.O.C., A.I.F., but 
I honestly feel that such an appointment would really be impossible, 
for none of our senior generals seem to have real confidence in 
him, and look upon the possibility of his appointment as such 
with the greatest apprehension; HOBBS going so far as to say 
that he felt he would not be able to carry on in command of his 
division, were McCAY so appointed.  It is certainly most 
unfortunate that this should be the case, as I so fully recognise 
not only McCAY'S great ability, but his whole-hearted keenness on 
the A.I.F. and its efficiency, but he seems to have such a very
unfortunate manner of rubbing people everybody up the wrong way, 
and of being out of sympathy with all.

CHAUVEL, as I have previously mentioned, is our senior 
officer, but the fact that he is in Egypt makes it impossible to 
consider him for here, and, indeed, I know that the Commander-in-
Chief would absolutely refuse to accept him as a corps commander
with his entire lack of experience of conditions of fighting in 
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In this connection, I trust you will not have thought 
that I have anything but the good of this force in view, in 
suggesting that I should retain the appointment of G.O.C., A.I.F.,
but it has struck me that in addition to being able to co-ordinate 
the work between the different branches, now that I have had this 
in my hands during the last 3½ years, I may I hope be able to be 
of some service when the days of demobilisation arrive.  I well 
realise how difficult those times will be, and if I am still with 
the force, I shall hope to be able to do what I can to help.

I trust that you will not think that I have unduly 
laboured the whole of this matter, and that you will realise 
I write to you as openly as I do confidentially, and for your
personal information, but I have thought it only right to let you know 
every detail as it strikes me - as I say, for your own information.

There remains the question of General WHITE, whom I have 
told you the Commander-in-Chief has nominated for Major-General, 
General Staff, of my Army.  It is, as you will realise, an extremely 
important appointment, second only to that of C.G.S. at G.H.Q.
I can think of no one more admirably fitted to fill it than WHITE, 
while his experience in it will be of the greatest value to Australia 
in time to come.
I, of course, realise what his removal from the corps will 
mean, but on my going I think he would in any case have wished to 
go to a division rather than to remain on the Staff, while we have 
three or four brigadiers, all of whom are suited for divisional 
command, and who should be gaining experience as such.  Only a 
short time ago, General WALKER, in whose division BLAMEY is G.S.O.I., recommended him for the appointment of B.G.G.S., and I was on the 
point of sending in his name for such to an English corps.  Now, 
however, that this vacancy has occurred, it provides an excellent
opportunity for BLAMEY (whose appointment I have discussed with 
MONASH) and, of course, with WHITE ) and I trust that he will 
do well in it.  MONASH has himself naturally all the ability 
to judge of this.
I shortly expect to have two further divisional vacancies ,
as well as that of MONASH, as I have for some time been urging G.H.Q. 
to transfer Generals SMYTH and WALKER to English divisions, in order 
that we may be able to advance Australian officers.  It had been my 
intention to put up the names of ROSENTHAL and GLASGOW to you in
that order for these vacancies, as they stand in that order on 
the list of brigadiers whom I consider suitable.  Now, however, that 
MONASH'S vacancy has come first, I have made an alteration in this, 
and recommended GELLIBRAND to you to succeed him in the 3rd Division, 
though I still propose to recommend ROSENTHAL and GLASGOW when the 
other two divisions fall vacant.

My reason for this is that in the 3rd Division we have 
McNICHOLL McNICOLL as our senior brigadier.  He is an excellent, 
hard-working, honest, keen and loyal brigadier, of whom MONASH has 
a high opinion, and who has always done his best in the most self-
sacrificing manner.  MONASH has been inclined to consider him for 
divisional command, but on discussing it thoroughly, he agrees with 
me that, good as McNICOLL is as a brigadier, he hardly at present 
possesses the necessary qualifications for the far more important 
divisional command.  He would, however, feel it a good deal if 
ROSENTHAL, who is in the same division, were to go over his head, 
while we hope he will not have the same feelings when GELLIBRAND, 
who is a Staff College officer with many years' experience as a 
of regular soldiering and who has also been continuously with us 
since October, 1914, is given the command of the division, and I 
trust that this will be the case.  As the appointments to all three 
divisions are likely to occur within a short period, it will not 
matter much as to the order in which they go. Should GELLIBRAND'S 
health fail, (which is the one point I am ever in doubt about him) 
BRAND would I think be the next to move up in his place, for he 
continues to prove himself such an excellent officer.

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Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to
Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 15th June, 1918.

 

I am so sorry to have just had to send you a telegram 
about a successor to Brigadier-General R. SMITH, as I much 
regret I have had to replace him.  He has proved himself a
real sterling hard fighting soldier, for whom I have had the 
greatest respect and admiration, after seeing a very great 
deal of him ever sinc e he took over his brigade command, and 
even before when he commanded a battalion.  He has looked the
picture of health and a real strong man, but rather suddenly has 
developed what I understand is ulceration of the stomach, for 
which he was sent to England.  I had every hope that he would 
be back with us shortly, but apparently the trouble has 
proved worse than was anticipated, and I have received a 
report from our medical board there that he must be invalided 
to Australia.  I hope you may perhaps see him on arrival, 
and let him know how highly we thought of him; I am indeed 
sorry to have lost his services.  Colonel MARTIN, who takes 
his place, is however a real good solid and reliable man, and 
will I am sure do well.

An, alteration in establishment has just been made 
by G.H.Q., and this, though small on the surface, will yet 
help us considerably as regards numbers.  The establishment
of an infantry battalion has been reduced from 966 to 900, 
which, you will see, means a reduction from our battalions 
60 battalions of some 4,000 men, and this will be of
considerable help to us.

 

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Copy of private letter from General Talbot HOBBS to Senator
G.F.Pearce, dated 27th June, 1918.

Headquarters, 5th Australian
Division,
27th June, 1918.

My dear Senator Pearce,

Years ago you were good enough to tell me that I might, if I 
wished, write you direct on any subject of importance connected with 
the Military Forces of the Commonwealth.  I have never done so hitherto, 
but lately events of the most vital importance affecting the future 
welfare of the Australian Imperial Forcehave occurred, which induce me
now to take advantage of the privilege you extended to me.

The matters I refer to are fully set forth and explained in a 
letter to you from General MONASH, dated the 21st instant. This letter, 
which I have carefully read, I entirely agree with and feel I am 
perfectly justified in expressing the opinion that theletter represents
the views of the great majority of all ranks of the A.I.F.  General 
MONASH has so clearly stated our views that it is quite un-necessary 
for me to traverse and endorse his letter in detail.  I desire however, 
while emphasising the importance of the subjects mentioned in the 
letter, specially to refer to other changes which I understand are
likely to follow the proposed displacement of General BIRDWOOD from 
the position he now holds as G.O.C., A.I.F.
It is, I believe, proposed by the gentlemen in London referred 
to by General MONASH in his letter to remove General MONASH from the 
command of the Australian Corps and to appoint him Administrative Head 
in London of the Australian Imperial Force, replacing him by General 
C.B.B.WHITE in command of the Australian Corps.  Why this is considered 
necessary I am quite at a loss to know.  What I do know, however, 
is that it would mean the loss to the A.I.F. of a commander of very 
great ability and exceptional energy and experience, who enjoys 
absolutely the complete confidence and respect of the A.I.F. as a 
fighting leader, to be relegated to a position where he would practically
become a none/ntity, owing to the causes stated and the reasons given on 
page 3, para. 3 and following paras. of General MONASH'S letter of the 
21st instant.  As already stated, General WHITE is to be taken from his 
position as M.G.G.S. 5th Army to command the Australian Corps - taken 
from a position where his great ability, initiative, knowledge and 
experience are certainly going to be of the greatest value to the 
Army, the Empire, and the cause for which we are fighting; a position 
for which he is peculiarly suited and which many of us fully believe 
to be but a step to another Staff appointment of much greater 
importance in the future, and one which we feel certain he has the
ability and qualifications to fill with very great credit to himself, 
invaluable advantage to the Empire's Armies, and distinguished 
honour and ultimate immense advantage to Australia.

Moreover, I have good reason to believe that both General 
MONASH and General WHITE are entirely adverse to the changes proposed 
for them and to which it is quite possible they may (and justly so) 
object to.  Supposing that they should feel so strongly in this matter 
that they should resign rather than agree to the changes, it would
probably mean that the A.I.F. would lose in addition to General BIRDWOOD 
both Generals MONASH and WHITE.  The consequences of such a possibility 
can only be regarded as disastrous to the A.I.F., for we have not the 
men who could replace them.  General MONASH undoubtedly, for many 
reasons, is the best man to command the Corps, and I am sure that 
General WHITE agrees with me.  General MONASH'S appointment has been 
most popular with all ranks of the A.I.F. in France and his removal 
would be looked upon with wonder, and possibly with suspicion, and 
would be sure to give rise to all sorts of rumours which might be 
exceedingly unpleasant and painful to General MONASH.

I am sure I am voicing the opinion of the majority of the 
all ranks of the A.I.F. and certainly of the Corps and Divisional 
Commanders (who ought to be, and are, the best judges of what is 
required in the best interests of the fighting men of the A.I.F. in 
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present administration and command [*control of the A.I.F are made, that Mr. Hughes should 
come to France and see the Corps and 
Divisional Commanders and obtain their 
views on the subject. Personally I am*] 
[*entirely 
at a loss 
to know 
why it is 
desired to 
replace 
General Birdwood 
and alter 
the present 
higher 
administration 
and command.*] General MONASH has not in the 
slightest degree exaggerated the invaluable services rendered 
to Australia and the A.I.F. by General BIRDWOOD during the time 
he has been associated with us, and I am most emphatically 
of opinion that the severance of his present relationship 
with the A.I.F. would not only be most unpopular with the force, 
but would be entirely to the disadvantage of Australia.  No man 
could have more devotedly studied the interests of Australia 
and her soldiers than General BIRDWOOD has done, and I am confident 
that nothing would induce him to sacrifice Australia's interests, 
either for his own or any other person's or persons' advantage. 
Surely it is best to leave well alone.  Everything at the 
present time to the best of my knowledge and belief is going on 
smoothly and well with the A.I.F. in France and the reputation 
of the Australian soldier has never been, and can hardly ever be
expected to be higher than at the present moment.  If there is 
trouble, it is in England and certainly not with the A.I.F. in 
France, where the only probable complaint or discontent would
which may exist is among a few senior officers who are perhaps 
disappointed with the selections and recent command appointments 
to divisions and brigades.  It would be a thousand pities - in 
fact it would be, I fear, disastrous, at this critical time 
to make the drastic changes in the higher appointments of the
A.I.F. which are suggested , and, I believe, seriously contemplated.
It would certainly mean discord and distraction among men whose 
one and only thought at this crisis in our history should be 
centred on one thing and one alone - the defeat of our 
enemies and the triumph of our cause.
 I am,
Yours very sincerely,
(Sgd) J.Talbot Hobbs.

 

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Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to
Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 6th August, 1918.

I am sure you will realise with what great regret I have 
wired to you regarding General GRIFFITHS' wish to return to Australia. 
I would have refused to think of this, had I consulted only my own wishes 
but, as he points out, he has done four years' good and loyal work 
for us, during which I think I may say he has hardly had five minutes' 
holiday or real rest.  He points out that both he and his wife are 
getting on in years, and the long separation at their time of life 
means a great deal to them.  He told me that you had been so 
extremely kind as to offer to send Mrs. Griffiths and his girls over 
to England, but which would have been a possible solution of the 
difficulty,  I understand, however, that Mrs. Griffiths has a highly 
nervous temperament, and he fears that once she gets into the danger 
zone , it would be altogether too much for her. He has therefore 
had reluctantly to put aside all idea of this, and to apply that
he may be released.
He had written out to me about this, but I told him I would 
decide nothing until I could have a talk with him, when the opportunity 
offered on my going over to London for the opening of Australia House. 
I can hardly exaggerate the loyal and good work which GRIFFITHS 
has done to, I think I may say, the complete satisfaction of every 
member of the A.I.F., and undoubtedly to the great advantage of it 
and of the country.  He is, I know, in ways extremely sorry to be 
leaving, but he tells me he thinks he should go.
I am afraid that it is impossible to disguise the fact 
that at the present moment there is undoubtedly a certain feeling of 
unrest and being unsettled among a large number of our senior officers - 
a feeling which is naturally very undesirable, and, to some extent, 
I attribute/GRIFFITHS' wish to go now to this feeling, which he has 
acknowledged he certainly had.  This is of course due, as you will 
know, to the apparently unsettled question as to whether what is to 
be the future of the command of the A.I.F.  I may mention that 
personally I know nothing officially about this.  You were kind
enough to inform me of the decision of the Commonwealth Government 
that I should retain the command, and on this I am entirely acting. 
When Mr HUGHES came over here, I had, as I told you, an interview 
with him on the 17th June.  He then asked me what my position was 
with our troops, which I fully explained to him.  Since then, I
have heard nothing more on the subject, beyond the fact that when 
Mr HUGHES visited France, he spoke to all the divisional-generals , 
who, I believe, one and all urged that no further changes should 
be made.  Beyond that, I know nothing, except that from all sides 
we hear of continual discussions as to whether changes in the future -
which as I say are, as is only natural, upsetting to work.  As a 
matter of fact, two or three of our senior officers told me they 
would wish to return to Australia, but I pointed out how their 
duty lies to retain their commands whatever happens, as our one
and only idea must simply be to do our best for the A.I.F., and 
Australia generally - this I am sure all will do to the end.
In this connection I enclose a copy of a telegram which I 
recently received from CHAUVEL, and to which I was only able to reply 
that I knew little about the matter.  I took a copy with me to 
London, as I thought it only right that Mr HUGHES should see it. 
As there was no opportunity for my having a talk with him (he was 
naturally fearfully busy) I gave this copy to General HOWSE, who was 
dining with him, and who I know showed it to him.  I understand that 
Mr HUGHES was not prepared to take any notice whatever of it.
It is, I think, however, only right that it should be considered, 
as there can be no question of the really good service which CHAUVEL 
has done since the beginning of the war, and being as he is our 
senior officer, he will naturally feel very hurt if he is superseded.
I trust that this and other difficulties may be overcome by the 
present arrangements being continued.  However, this has all come 
as a diversion, for I was really writing about GRIFFITHS, and my 
regret at the prospects of losing him.
I have thought very deeply over the question of a possible 
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conclusion that the one man who seems suitable in all respects 
is General DODDS.  He at first absolutely refused to be considered 
for the appointment.  He told me that when he first came from 
Australia, he thought it was an appointment which he might like, 
but that now his one wish was to remain with me in the field.  I 
have found him most admirable in his present appointment, and very 
much indeed regret the possibility of losing him from my side, 
for I feel I can always turn to him for good and sound advice.
When I put the concrete question to him to succeed GRIFFITHS, he 
again told me he was not prepared to do so; but on placing the 
question of Australia's interests fully before him, he had to agree 
that he could not himself suggest the name of any other man who 
could carry out the work fairly satisfactorily.  I pointed out to 
him that we had to realise that the position of G.O.C. in charge 
of Administration in London would probably increase in importance 
owing to the great work which will devolve upon it when 
demobilisation comes on, and for which it is essential to have a man 
of good practical knowledge, who could be relied on to work in 
with the War Office and the Admiralty on the many arrangements 
involving both departments.  On seeing it in this light, DODDS 
had to realise that in Australian interests, he could no longer
refuse.  He, however, like GRIFFITHS, told me that he was feeling 
the very unsettled state owing to these rumours of contemplated 
changes.
In this connection, too, I gather from GRIFFITHS that he 
understood that General McCAY was again urging that he should 
be in charge of both/the troops training in England and the Administration, 
and that in asking for his return to Australia , he had this fact 
also in mind, as he felt he could not work satisfactorily under 
General McCAY.  DODDS tells me that he has exactly the same feelings, 
and that he would only accept the appointment provided he is not 
placed in that position, and he adds if he can feel he has the 
complete confidence in your Government.  I have told him that he
could rely on both these proviso, and I trust that things will
be satisfactorily settled.

I understand that the much debated question of the Gallipoli 
Star will shortly be settled.- I sincerely hope so, as the real brave
fellows who went through all the fighting there have, as it is,
already been kept far too long from wearing a little bit of ribbon,
upon which they rightly lay so much value and stress.  What the 
actual details will eventually be, I do not know, not that they really 
very much matter, for all we want is to give what we can as a very 
small recognition of the gallant service done by our men there.
From what I hear, however, I am much afraid that there is no prospect 
of the 29th Division or the two magnificent Indian Mountain Batteries 
who fought alongside us at Anzac, being made eligible for the 
decoration.  I think that every single Australian will regret this 
most deeply, and I cannot help thinking that it is a stupid and 
narrow-minded view which has been taken by the War Office, and has 
prevented their inclusion.  I feel, however, that I am only out to 
fight the battle for the Australians, and I hope that the action 
which I originally took in the matter will, at all events, have
ensured justice for them.

There has been some talk lately of the formation of an A. 
and N.Z. Army, to consist of our five divisions and the N.Z. Division - 
forming two corps of three divisions each.  As far as I can gather, 
all our people and the New Zealanders are most enthusiastic about the 
idea, and, looking ahead, it would seem to me to be extremely desirable
from the national point of view of both Australia and New Zealand. 
There can be no doubt about it that both Dominions must be as one in 
matters of defence in the Pacific, and I cannot help thinking that, 
as years go on, they must work absolutely whole-heartedly together in 
every possible way.  All agree that the time, during which we formed 
one force, and fought literally shoulder to shoulder at Gallipoli,
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way.  Since the New Zealanders left the Australian Corps, the 
tendency has been for them to drift apart again, and this I know 
all the best officers of both forces regret.  If they can again be 
brought together now in one army, and remain so until the end of the 
war, I am sure that a really great stroke from the Imperial 
point of view will have been made.

When I began this letter to you, it was with the idea that 
GRIFFITHS would/return permanently to Australia - which was his own 
definite petition.  I gather, however, that as a result of 
conversation with General HOWSE, he has been persuaded to modify
this, and to ask for five months' leave only - to be allowed to 
proceed to and return from Australia with General HOWSE.  As this 
would seem to be all in the best general interests of Australia, I 
have welcomed it, as I realise that there will be so much to do
when demobilisation comes, that his services will probably be of 
very great value then - while there will also be lots for DODDS to 
do here.
GRIFFITHS brought with him the terms of the Gallipoli Star. 
By restricting this to those who actually landed on the Peninsula 
I am afraid it will cut out our nurses and medical officers, who 
did such extremely good work under very trying circumstances in 
hospitals at Mudros.  I feel that this would result in real heart-
burning, and as they there were subjected to the same dangers from 
disease as we were on the Peninsula, I am hoping that the terms will 
be modified, so as to make those actually on the Islands, and on the 
hospital ships plying between them and the Peninsula, eligible for
the decoration. This I am sure would be the absolute wishes of 
everyone who served at Gallipoli.
I have not wired to you about it owing to the delay which would 
result in the issue of the Star at all, but I am writing urging 
for reconsideration, to which I hope you will agree.

 

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Extract from private letter from General Sir W.R.Birdwood to
Senator G.F.Pearce, dated 23rd August, 1918.

I can so well understand your feelings as regards General 
WHITE, for I really do regard him as just about the best of our 
magnificent Australian officers.  At the same time, I am sure that 
you will realise that it was impossible for me to advise you that 
he should succeed me in the corps, without fully considering the 
claims of General MONASH, whose work, since he took over from me, 
has more than justified my recommendation to you and your decision 
on the subject.  Also, from the first I have felt that it would be
all to the advantage of Australia that General WHITE'S great ability 
should be given the opportunity of the further and considerably wider 
experience which he must gain as Chief Staff Officer of an Army.
Each Army in turn is called upon to undertake large and independent 
operations and as the Chief Staff Officer of such a force, he gains 
experience which is absolutely invaluable.  Also, my own personal 
opinion is that General WHITE is probably the best and ablest 
of the staff officers in the Armies in France, and should by any 
chance the present Chief of the General Staff vacate his 
appointment, I should personally have no hesitation in recommending 
that General WHITE should succeed him.
Whether such a contingency will ever occur, it is 
impossible to say, but I am quite convinced that Australia would 
be really glad to know that one of her officers could occupy such a 
position.  If he did so, the experience gained would be such as 
neither he nor Australia could possibly have contemplated when he 
came out here as G.S.O.1. of our 1st Division.
General WHITE has, himself, fully deserved every honour 
and advancement that has come to him, for I know no more able, 
loyal and whole-hearted worker than he is.  Also, he is one of 
those men who never spare themselves in any way.  I very often 
try to induce him not to work so much, and allow others to 
relieve him, but he is so extremely thorough that he will, 
I am afraid, never consent to do this.  I am only a little afraid 
that he is becoming somewhat worn out, and I should much like to 
think that he could have a few months' rest.  This may, or may not, 
be possible as a result of the decision which may be arrived at 
during the next few days. 

 
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