Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/207/1 - 1915 - 1918 - Part 8

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First World War, 1914–18
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of port w 1500 fighting men. Se 13th Ble us to held this for tho night of 5/6t5 & to be reld on night of 647t by Canadians who ad hot the line till night of 717 8tc when they wod attack at down. When I raid took place, Gen Rawlison decide to 1 Canadians cont be placed in line until I last night - as of Igernsans ideatified first 1 Ciustralians of then (Canadians, they to swell a rat. The Australian being 1deatifil made this y. Hws accord b Maclegan to be ws sorry he wd
have to ask 13 Bde to stay there andher night. A sd. A 2 nights were to worse then one - tho of course he cont guaranter agst a heavy ract of 10r men (the long tine wt still held by plation units + not less - if split, the Teast be able to support Each stew Hering we quite cure on joing in first to he wd be raided - the difference in belorels & mannce ade this certain. This eoolow lease 13 Ble out of first alider I splitting lo Dion by attection 1Sr Bde to 4r Dion.
The actal fact of ract certainl helped our plans rater hem kindered can. The frmen xamination o oeer prisonrs atterode casured amsugt his papers) prover his told Germs The 57 Bn men to key bed bn doing no special training for an attack. As a metterof fact tey had be trainy w ttanks - the officers & FC8. of TBr hed & and th whole of 5D & 49 officers ncds & men - & the man of F/Ba Altough not So Fanie Kensehies must have known his
50 Bn. Joyecourt. When E of Soyecourt Col.Selesbu Wanter tC. some informati Abt fermans in a wood find how it we helt. Hawker, a brother of the flying corps V.C. was a phe of & as sentout in/c of a patrol. e a worhim out in (dook when Key race on a pty of fermans who were a post evidenty Expecting a retief. They shouted in ferman are you the Hawkn spoke ferman -& he stouted back to key were & ten orderet his men to open fire. Obt then another ply of Germs - the real relief
came up behend then cut tem off F they had to fight theest way back. Hex day the D0 Bn attached on the strugth of this informate & were very success ft 51Ba Novenit The Bn had found the tive just beyond trancourt cemetery - a little beyond I town docknow if It this means the lettle military CemeleryI in the ratley near the prisoners aage) they had sustd the live more or less peaciably forward till the right was just ahead
of Vrancourt Copse, & the left up near the vancourt lospte Rd on I hell. There of a catis in road there, & Every night the Scots on 1 left, 21 germans, seemed to take r retake this natex. The Scottick Bns Hg. sent on one nyht to say t they had I creter & had taken the fermans dinner boiling on a Primns stove. Almost before a couple of hours taks it as ferman again When 51 Bn lived up on its tapes t take the letthand stopes past Novenil it lay across I hill top just beyond Vrancourt Copse. Messages came in at once from the Rt Coy
Commdr to say to his men were allaws id up w1 soots! Prely amessay came from Ileft to day same. The scots were to for Longatte! This was incompres litt it as found to 1 Scots had laid their lapes wrong - the put tem out as of I attack were on Norcuil. orpall sity 507 Doorenit The 515 & cots went on together & struck leavy opposite from 3 or 4 ngs. at th bp a(Panken Rdbetw Norenil & Congatte (B) They had several officers + a namber of men kor wd. in port
in ofthis. t a you upter neemed Earle got w a few men cte t Sanken Rd at A (frtin on 1 rit) I trking up it, shot I crews 01 guns - & the Bn got abead. They killed aumber of ferms. on his road ? also had a bit of fighting at the Village end of it wher heir right just trushe past villag They went on I occupin a trench Eof Norcull - beyand twn &ws a good truch I bent back a bit on 1 lep. They nove of them had known
of its existence & there wos 1Bn some comment on their not having had aeroplane photos before to show them 1 ground. being Thy reported, in touch w scots on 1left & 505 on their right. This 6s true; but as amatter of fact they were only odds & ends of Scots & 5ot who had come along on their flanks. Longate we apt not taken Howwer a meg. At placed on the Tunkin road from Noscuil t Longatte, where it pis into 1 dip just Nof t point 8 on I above sketch. And the Brilish Catic to day?) settled took (51 & 50 Bno had Hgrefer Longatle. Now adays a know enough to beet they er - tewondlain same duput
Bulls Pomme Winter weat Fun dujouts were most untembered gatteries– too small for comfort. Ther used to get cupocatingly bot Een in medwinter & a used ten visible seam early from them in the monnings Fen Even slept there without te any clothes on owny fug Sownetouts I stom trach 45 Bron Major Howden, 2u/C of 45Bn who was a splended officer advosed Herrin when I coys arrive th were to make a set attack on men were Storny y t

of port w 1500 fighting men.

The 13th Bde ws to hold this for

the night of 5/6th & to be

reld on night of 6th/7th by

Canadians who wd hold

the line till night of 7th/8th

when they wd attack at 

dawn.

 

When I raid took

place, Gen Rawlinson decided

th I Canadians cdnt be

placed in I line until I

last night - as if I Germans

identified first I Australians

& then I Canadians, they wd

smell a rat. The Australians

being identified made this 

necy. It ws accordly told by

Maclagan th he ws sorry he wd

 

have to ask 13 Bde to

stay there another night.

It sd th 2 nights were

no worse than one - tho

of course he cdnt guarantee

agst a heavy raid of

100 men (the long line ws

still held by platoon units

& not less - if split, they

must be able to support each

other).

 

Herring ws quite sure

on going in first th he wd

be railed - the difference

in helmets & manners

made this certain.

 

This involved leaving

13 Bde out o I first attack

& splitting 1st Divn by attacking

1st Bde to 4th Divn.

 

The actual fact of I raid ^almost certainly

helped our plans rather then

hindered them. The German

examination of our prisoners

(afterwds captured amongst

his papers) proves this.

 

The 51 Bn men told I Germs

th they had bn doing no

special training for an

attack. As a matter of

fact they had bn training w

I tanks - the officers & NCOs

of 51 BN had- and the whole of

50 & 49 officers n.c.os

& men _ & the men of 51 Bn

although not so trained

themselves must have known

this.

 

50 m Soyecourt.

 

When E. of Soyecourt

Col. Salisbury wanted to get

some information abt Germans

in a wood & find how it

ws held. Hawker, a brother 

of the flying corps V.C. was a 

pln offr & ws sent in/c

of a patrol. He was working

out in I dark when they

ran on a pty of Germans who

were a post evidently

Expecting a relief. They shouted

"Are you the      th?" in German.

Hawker spoke German - & he

shouts back th they were -

& then ordered his men to open

fire. Abt then another pty

of Germs - the real relief -

 

came up behind then &

cut then off & they had to

fight their way back. Next

day the 50 Bn attacked on the

strength of this informatn &

were very successful.

 

51 Bn Noreuil.

The Bn had found the line

just beyond Noreuil Bancourt

cemetery - a little beyond I town

(I think ^dont think this means the little military

cemetery x in the valley near the

prisoners' cage.) They had pushed

the line more or less presently

forward till the right was just ahead

 

 of Vrancourt Copse, & the

left up near the Vrancourt Longette

Rd on I hill. There ws a crater

in I road there, & every night the

Scots on I left, & I Germans, seemed

to take or retake this crater. The

Scottish Bns Hq. sent in one night

to say th they had I crater & had

taken the Germans dinner boiling

on a Primus stove. Almost before

I message A couple of hours

later it ws German again.

 

When 51 Bn lined up on

its tapes to take the left hand

slopes past Noreuil it lay

across I hill top just beyond

Vrancourt Copse. Messages

came in at once from the rt Coy

 

commds to say th his men were

all mixed up w I Scots! Presently

a message came from I left

to say I same. The Scots were

to go for Longette! This was incomprehensible

till it ws found th I Scots had

laid their lapses wrong - this

put them out as if I attack

were on Noreuil!

 

Sketch

 

The 51st & Scots went on together

& struck heavy oppositn from

3 or 4 m.gs at the top of I sunken

Rd betw Noreuil & Longette. (B)

They had several officers & a

number of men k. or wd. in front

 

of this. At last ^Then a youngster

named Earle got w a few

men into the Sunken Rd at

A (further on I right) &,

working up it, shot I crews

& I guns  - & the Bn got

ahead. They killed a number 

of Germs in this road &

also had a bit of fighting

at the Village end of it where

their right just brushed

past I village.

 

They went on &

occupied a trench E of

Noreuil - beyond I town.

It ws a good trench &

bent back a bit on I left.

They none of them had known

 

of its existence & there ws

some comment ^in I Bn on their not

having had aeroplane photos

before to show them I ground.

They reported ^being in touch w

Scots on I left & 50th on their

right. This ws true; but as

a matter of fact they were

only odds & ends of Scots

& 50th who had come along

on their flanks. Longette ws apptly

not taken. However a m.g. ws

placed on the Sunken Road

from Noreuil to Longette,

where it goes into I dip just

N of the point B on I above

sketch. And the British

(later th day?) settled took

Longette. (51 & 50 Bns had Hqrs far

apart. Nowadays we know enough to put then

in either - they would be in I same dugout.)

 

Somme winter. Bulls

run dugouts were big ^winding mostly

in timbered galleries - too

small for comfort. They

used to get suffocatingly hot

even in midwinter & a

visible steam used to exude

from them in the ^early mornings.

Men even slept there without 

any clothes on owing to the "fug".

 

45 Bn. ^Somme winter. Stormy Trench

Major Howden, 2 in/c.

of 45 Bn who was a splendid

officer advised Herring when

I Coys arrived th were to 

make a set attack on

Stormy Trench th I men were

 

 

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