Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/2/1 - January - March 1915 - Part 11

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99 March 4 I go through the camp – "Set of bally wasters what I am supposed to have called them – of course I didn't; but I do suppose they misunderstand the word "leaven: of wasters which I used referring to the handful of chaps - now mostly sent back who were getting these chaps a bad name. Do you road the Argus ?1 & things a pod deal warmer, occasionally, than that. Now the history of the article is as follows. It was actually written because the Geveral asked me to write something to prepare the people of Aushalia for the return of the men who had been dispracing their country in Carro o brenging a badname on the shole force. They many are morh old soldiers, of them not born in Anshalia at all & when one Saw willing chaps most of the what sppendes Yong force was composed of one could not help being angry at the way these olt hardheads were losing the whole of this five bod Young Aushalia terr pad Ie didn't tut thei woudd nance. I though sortckingl ought to be yersing continually that all is welf why ever let anything through One gets (very adcained of ones dmabout e th as a matter of fact all i not well- I salent seem sairt to the people of anstalia. However was preparing to write a lot of little pretty treveal stories when the general met me on the stairs & stopped me. He said he had received a letter from General
March 4 180. Berdwood, who had been spoken to by gen- Maxwell about the conduct of this roody section of the Austialian force. The general said of course I was not to send the letter itself; but he would show it to me & I could write something aboutit to prepare for the sendgry homs of these rowdias the Chustalian peoptex I asket iI should do so by cable or letter, & he said he kought both. I therefore cabled an extract from Sir George Reid's speech about if there is any amroupt you that is unwortly Etc. Etc., they must be cast out - & wrote this 18th artiche carefully avoiding any scare, understating the facts in every I being as far as I could direction Thay sumply dgnt te yow- Soms of that gland, belgewe they were jelling a bad, name. sempatousty fair. But had heard the Adstratians discussed on the Admirets cabin on the Siviftsure, when there wereabout 20 distinguishi officers rothers at lunch; Sir John Maxwell asked me if they all drank quite so hard, + when tey were piy to stop it; he said he he wd haulto put the vars outof bounds if bey didn't stop it; every time one went into Cairo the censons, the Clegraph clerk
March 4 101 he civilians in the hotels used to ask me when the Anstialians were going to be tied up a nearly al drew some comparison between them & the New Zealanders ? Territouials Isaid it was only the act of a few & it seemed quite clear to me too that something ought to be written about it in ordeer to see that it didn't happen with future continguts or & was glad when he fercial & also to make sure that the old hardhends who were sent home didn't so back & turn round & pose as injured heroes tost start abusiy officers & mew who were here really doing their work in a way to being credit on their country. The article prevented that. And now, in spite of the outery in camp, the geveral has not fone back upon his opinion. He said the other day be thought it was a good arhicle except in one point. make out that sean that the it dn the Light Horse at Maade were better than the mena men. Col. White saw my point there - that the civilians at Maadi had done more for the troops tran the
March 4 102 people anywhere Else & that had (as it unquestionably did) its effect. I think it was a good thing it was written, Blan Col. white said, it is a wholesome article it will do a lot of good. And I think so too, although I dont know that I'd have written it if I had thought any Austialian papers would twist it into scares about their absent soldiers & thath avrvls ? relations would so hopelessly misunderstand what was so clearly written. I believe the article has done & will do good - anyway my job is to tell the people of Aushalia coolyd like the truth. When things go wrong – & they going very wrong at Christmnas time - my job is to see that at any rate the blame is put on the right people & that the innocent dont get a bad name for what they didn't do. When things so right I have to try & see that the Austalian people knows the right people to get the credit. If they want some one to feed them on soft pap, only to tell then good & pleasant Khings whatever happins, then I am not the man for the job
March 4 103 I am not going to shift any part of the responsibility for this article onto other shoulders. I have told no one except Tack (altough come of the staf know it before) that the general asked me to write this article. what I have done is (17 to try and correct the scare article in the Sydney Sunday Times (which I did not write) by a strong cable to ciustralia: 9R) to show the men that if I write about things when they go wrong I also wrile & give them the full credit when things go right. I have got the staff to publicd an extract from my article on the Division in orders & also an extract of a cable sent on Feb. 25th, I have got Wenter e In order that anything said in my article may not affect the reputation of the force outside austoalia, I have got Renters correspondent lee to telegaph an immemsely appreciation A to my mind perfectly true) summary of the work of the A.1.F. here to every on freat Britain. I know it has
March 4/15 104 had some effect in Anctialis because Defiver we have had a telegiam from the minister there (which has been publishs in orders) compatulating the troops on the report. I have seen that this also got into the Egyptian Mail. I cant domore than that - & there I leave it. I am not telling anyone Rat the general asked me to write the Iwanted to write if & I believe it has acticle becauseappof done good wangee? & secondly it would make him unpopular &E it is for better that I shd be unpopular tan he. I could apply to be attached to the Lad Divn - which doesnt fell the same way - but I'm not goin to The 1st Aushralian one is the one Ive been with & I'm not going to criticise them & ran away. I be no doubt he and Dion has just as many houblesome rowdies in it as we once had - perhaps more. March 5 Fiday. Spint last night at Heliopotis
105 March 5 House Hotel as I wantes to see the New gealanders returned from the Canal, & to get Col. Monash to let me have some particulies of the composition of the second force. I saw a divisional manoeuare of theirs the other day. something very fine specticalarly. I had come over to see Col. Morach or Macglyun I found they on a "schme The clerks as the boogade had out twas about toclo office didn't know if it was a divisional or a brigade scheme - thought it was a brigade one - out along the lueg Road. I walked out in the direction indicate &after about 2hours hard going found the Diol on a steepsoliter hill Headquarters of gen. Gadly with the N.J. Mounted Ripes brigade dismounted in rear of it - looking very fine. They told me Col. monash's Hladquaters were probably away on the left - so I pashedon up a sandy wa & found it about an hour later. In phack was just finishinyg - an assault on a hell, I I walle back to Achopolis, had lea there, drove half way from Cairo to Mene -&, as it was cold & the trais were caup
March 5 186 crowded I walked the last 5 mills from fiza to Cmy getting back about 9.30 & having walked from 25 to 30 meles since 1.30. That was a few days ago - Wednesday, I think. Today, I got back to mena at medday & we started at once on a divisional manocuore, our first. The scheme was explained by the general from Cairn Ridp behind the Pyrameds. Then we went out into the desert & placed our H. quarters at prey Hill & atternoos drew it back behind a smaller hil at the back. The two brigades were bok late in starting therr attack & afterwards got a little too much ahead. Late at night the transport came up krough the desert with the mens blankets & tucker. It was a fine sight to see them comeng eight horses in a team - the ough the heavy sand. The old General steptout just cuiled himself up in a gutter in the sand - I saw him there all by himself as I was valking about. He had only a rugover his overcoat-
107 March 5 6 (sack into the and his bep on his stick above his head, his Palaclava cap over his Ears. Sat. March. 8th. They attacked again - very prettily I believe - at day break, & then came in. As they were coming up the camp road, crossing the tramlines, the geverals horse came a crashing fall. Behew him was the orderly & behind the orderly the generals AD.C. Capt Fosles Foster stuck bot spurs into his horse, was at the generals side in two bounds flang himself forward like an acrobat, I was holding the generals horse before the horse had properly got to his feet. I believe it was a risky Tump he took but it succeeded. The generals foot was deep in the steriap; his spur was caught in the sterrap vron, &he was a deadman for a certainly if Jstis had not reached him. banchd in the 3rd Inf. messwith I + little goloring & Col. Owen. He is Colonel is an exceptionally nice man? the Battalion simply worships him.
March To show me that I was forgiven as fas as he was concerned and be did not agree with the article altagitin) he gave me a bottle of Palestine wine which we drank at mess Sund. Mar]. & injoys. It is gitt but repecking, w Today Col. Paterson asked one in to see two officers - Maj. Maggos & Maj. Clark, both of the 6th L.H. - who had come up to place before Headquarters a letter complaing of my article. It seems the old South Apican soldiers had a meeting some days ago at which maygar & others were present. They were treneadously annoyed at my article & made up a letter to be sent to their secretary in Melbourne. Maygar wd not forward it on unless it was first sent to readquarte Col. Patterson told him my letter was justified (though he was an ot South Apican war man himself) & said they ought to think temselves under an obligation to me for helping to red the force of the men who were ruiniy the name of the South Apican veteran - or words to that effect. I read my letter to them – oeither of them had readet & understood it before: & in the end both agreed that every word of it perhaps was trut & I tink may goo,f Clark too (in a half measure atany rate), admitted hat here was a preason for publishing it.

99
March 4                                                                                        
I go through the camp - "set of bally wasters" 
(what I am supposed to have called them - of 
course I didn't; but I don suppose they 
misunderstand the word "leaven" of 
wasters which I used referring to the 
handful of chaps - now mostly sent back - 
who were getting these chaps a bad name).
"Do you read the Argus?" & things a good deal 
warmer, occasionally, than that.  Now the 
history of the article is as follows:   It 
was actually written because the General asked 
me to write something to prepare the people 
of Australia for the return of the men who 
had been disgracing their country in Cairo & 
bringing a bad name on the whole force.  They 
are mostly old soldiers, few many of them not born 
in Australia at all & when one saw 
what splendid ^ willing young chaps most of the 
force was composed of one could not 
help being angry at the way these old 
hardheads were losing the whole of this 
fine body of young Australians their good 
name.  I thought something ought to be written about it but didnt think they would 
ever let anything through.  One gets very ashamed of oneself crying continually that all is well when 
name.  The General-first spoke to me about
as a matter of fact all is not well - It doesn't seem fair to the people of Australia.  However I
it - He had received a letter from General
was preparing to write a lot of little pretty trivial stories when the General met me on the 
stairs & stopped me.  He said he had received a letter from General

 

100.
March 4                                                                          
Birdwood, who had been spoken to by Gen. 
Maxwell about the conduct of this 
rowdy section of the Australian force.  
The General said of course I was not to send 
the letter itself; but he would show it to me & 
I could write something about it to prepare 
the Australian people ^ for the sending home of these rowdies.  I asked if I should 
do so by cable or letter, & he said he thought 
both.  I therefore cabled an extract from Sir 
George Reid's speech about "The " if there 
is any amongst you that is unworthy 
etc. etc., they must be cast out" - & wrote 
this 18th article carefully avoiding any 
scare, understating the facts in every 
direction, & being as far as I could, 
scrupulously fair.  ^ They simply don't know - Some of them don't believe they were getting a bad name.  But I had heard the Australians 
discussed in the Admirals cabin on the 
Swiftsure, when there were about 20 distinguished 
officers & others at lunch;  Sir John Maxwell 
asked me if they all drank quite so hard, & 
when they were going to stop it; he said he 
wd have to put the ^ hotel bars out of bounds 
if they didn't stop it; every time one went 
into Cairo the censors, the telegraph clerks, 

 

101
March 4                                                                            
the civilians in the hotels used to ask 
me when the Australians were going to be 
tied up & nearly always ^ often drew some comparison 
between them & the New Zealanders & Territorials.   
I always said it was only the act of a few 
- & it seemed quite clear to me too that 
something ought to be written about it in 
order to see that it didn't happen with future contingents  
So I was glad when the General 
& also to make sure that the old hard heads 
who were sent home didn't go back & 
turn round & pose as injured heroes & 
start abusing ^ those officers & men who were 
here really doing their work in a way 
to bring credit on their country.  The 
article prevented that.   And now, in 
spite of the outcry in camp,  the General 
has not gone back upon his opinion.  He 
said the other day he thought it was 
a good article except in one point - 
that he it smaller to mention seemed to make out that 
the Light Horse at Maadi were better 
than the Mena men.  Col. White saw my 
point there - that the civilians at Maadi 
had done more for the troops than the

 

102
March 4                                                                                  
people anywhere else & that had (as it 
unquestionably did) its effect.  "I think it 
was a good thing it was written, Bean", 
Col. White said, " it is a wholesome article;
it will do a lot of good".
And I think so too, although I don't 
know that I'd have written it if I had thought any 
Australian papers would twist it into scares 
about their absent soldiers & that offe wives & 
relations would so hopelessly misunderstand 
what was so clearly written.  I believe the 
article has done & will do good - anyway 
my job is to tell the people of Australia 
the truth.  When things go wrong - & they went looked like 
going very wrong at Christmas time - my job is to 
see that at any rate the blame is put on the 
right people & that the innocent dont get a
bad name for what they didn't do.  When
things go right I have to try & see that 
the Australian people knows the right 
people to get the credit.  If they want 
some one to feed them on soft pap, only 
to tell them good & pleasant things whatever 
happens, then I am not the man for the job.

 

103
March 4                                                                                
I am not going to shift one little any part of 
the responsibility for this article onto other 
shoulders.   I have told no one except Jack 
(although some of the staff knew it before) that 
the General asked me to write this article.  
What I have done is (1) to try and correct the 
scare article in The Sydney Sunday Times 
(which I did not write) by a strong cable 
to Australia; & (2) to show the men that if 
I write about things when they go wrong I also 
write & give them the full credit when things 
go right.  I have got the staff to publish 
an extract from my article on the Division 
in orders & also an extract of a cable 
sent on Feb 26th.  I have got Reuters
corres  In order that it was anything 
said in my article may not affect the 
reputation of the force outside Australia, I 
have got that Reuters correspondent here 
to telegraph an immensely appreciative 
(& to my mind perfectly true) summary 
of the work of the A.I.F. here to every 
paper in Great Britain.  I know it has

 

104
March 4 / 5                                                                       
had some effect in Australia because 
we have had a telegram from the ^ Defence Minister 
there (which has been published in orders) 
congratulating the troops on the work 
report.  I have seen that this also 
got into the Egyptian Mail.
I cant do more than that - & 
there I leave it.  I am not telling anyone 
that the General asked me to write the 
article because, for one thing, I approve of I wanted to write it & I believe it has 
it altogether done good; & secondly it would make 
him unpopular & f it is far better 
that I shd be unpopular than he. 
I could apply to be attached to 
the 2nd Divn - which doesnt feel the 
same way - but I'm not going to.  
The 1st Australian one is the one I've 
been with & I'm not going to criticise 
them and run away.  I've no doubt the 
2nd Divn has just as many troublesome 
rowdies in it as we once had - perhaps 
more. 
March 5 Friday.   Spent last night at Heliopolis

 

105
March 5                                                                           
House Hotel as I wanted to see the New 
Zealanders returned from the Canal, & to 
get Col. Monash to let me have some particulars 
of the composition of the second force.  I saw a 
divisional manoeuvre of theirs the other day - 
something very fine spectacularly.  I had come over
to see Col. Monash or MacGlynn & found they 
had gone out ^ on a "scheme".  It was then about 1 o'clock The clerks in the brigade 
office didn't know if it was a divisional 
or a brigade scheme - thought it was 
a brigade one - out along the Suez Road.  I 
walked out in the direction indicated & after 
about 2 hours hard going found the Divl. 
Headquarters of Gen. Godley ^ on a steep solitary hill with the N.Z. 
Mounted Rifles brigade dismounted in 
rear of it - looking very fine.  They 
told me Col. Monash's Headquarters 
were probably away on the left - so I 
pushed on up a sandy wady & found 
it about an hour later.  The attack was 
just finishing - an assault on a hill; &
I walked back to Heliopolis, had tea 
there, drove halfway from Cairo to Mena 
camp - &, as it was cold & the trains were

 

106
March 5                                                                                      
crowded I walked the last 5 miles from Giza 
to camp getting back about 9.30 & having walked 
from 25 to 30 miles since 11.30.  That was a few 
days ago - Wednesday, I think.
Today, I got back to Mena at midday 
& we started at once on a divisional 
manoeuvre, our first.  The scheme was 
explained by the General from Cairn Ridge 
behind the Pyramids. Then we went out 
into the desert & placed our H.Quarters 
at Grey Hill & afterwds drew it back behind 
a smaller hill at the back.  The two 
brigades were both late in starting for 
their attack & afterwards got a little 
too much ahead.  Late at night the 
transport came up through the desert 
with the mens blankets and tucker.  It 
was a fine sight to see them coming - 
eight horses in a team - through the 
heavy sand. The old General slept out - 
just curled himself up in a gutter in
the sand - I saw him there all by 
himself as I was walking about.  He 
had only a rug on over his overcoat,

 

107
March 5.  6                                                                      
his cap on his stick ^ stuck into the sand, above his head, & 
his balaclava cap over his ears.
Sat. March 5th.  They attacked again - very prettily 
I believe - at daybreak, & then came 
in.  As they were coming up the Camp 
road, crossing the tramlines, the Generals 
horse came a crashing fall.  Behind 
him was the orderly & behind the 
orderly the Generals A.D.C.  Capt Foster. 
Foster stuck both spurs into his horse, 
was at the Generals side in two bounds, 
flung himself forward like an acrobat, 
& was holding the Generals horse before 
the horse had properly got to his feet. 
I believe it was a risky jump he took 
but it xx succeeded.  The Generals foot 
was deep in the stirrup; his spur was 
caught in the stirrup iron & he was 
a dead man for a certainty if Foster 
had not reached him.
Lunched in the 3rd Inf. mess with 
J & little Goldring & Col. Owen. This 
Colonel is an exceptionally nice man & 
the Battalion simply worships him.

 

108
March 7                                                                               
To show me that I was forgiven as far as he was 
concerned (and he did not agree with the article altogether) he 
gave me a bottle of Palestine wine which we drank at mess 
& enjoyed.  It is light but refreshing.  & cheap.
Sund. Mar 7.
Today Col. Paterson asked me in to 
see two officers - Maj. Maygar & Maj. Clark, 
both of the 4th L.H. - who had come up to 
place before Headquarters a letter complaining 
of my article.  It seems the old South African 
soldiers had a meeting some days ago at 
which Maygar & others were present.  They 
were tremendously annoyed at my article 
& made up a letter to be sent to their 
secretary in Melbourne.  Maygar wd not 
forward it on unless it was first sent to Headquarters.  
Col. Patterson told them my letter was justified (though 
he was an old South African war man himself) 
& said they ought to think themselves under an 
obligation to me for helping to rid the force of the 
men who were ruining the name of the 
South African veteran - or words to that effect.  
I read my letter to them - neither of them 
had read it & understood it before; & in 
the end both agreed that every word of it 
was true & I think Maygar,  if not & perhaps Clark 
too (in a half measure at any rate), admitted 
that there was a go reason for publishing it. 

 

 

 

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