Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/2/1 - January - March 1915 - Part 12

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109 March Maygar asked me if I would come down & meet the South Apricans & read the letter to had done to temselves them & tell them,asId, jast why it was written & how the innocent men going home were amply safeguarded. I said I certainly would. He said a meeting would be illegal but if I would come to a sociat he would quarantee as far as he was concerned that theyd give me a fair hearing. I thought this the best thing I agree with him that it is a wethad that never fails with Austalians, to S & face them. They always give you a fair deal it you do. H tr out Ho let it out that I was supposed to have been invited to be previous meeting - & they actual gave it out there that I had been asked & had not attended. I dont know of this was a bit of double work on the part of the secretary or if he actially sent a letter to some other address. It was untrue - I never evnn knew that a meeting had been held attough Everyous Else seemed to
Three years later Smith told me that it was his Son, a private in the Cransport, who had told him of it. M. boy had heard some artillery man - rough men - arranging to waylag me on my way to the meeting tt night & lay me out. (At least & is what he understood they were going todo They st p s to see that bloke does get tere! He may base misunderstood then. Anysy he toto his father - Smith didn't telt me but he had to meeting stopped ]. March 8. 110 Monday March 8. Heard from Maj. Maygar that the social had been arranged for thednesday night. He & the committee invited we & I accepted the new Thesday March qOpSmith, Act Provost Marshal asked me this morning if I had heard of a meeting of S. Apican veterans called to meet me. I said I knew a sociat was being held. He said he would have something the holdey & to say to it. I said I thought a sociat eveni was not offending against military law & that it was much the best way for me to go down & put my points straght to these men. He was very much against it. To were latterson & piffits. It tund out that a man who came up from the Field Artillery to join the police gave the show away to Smeth the night before is Smith asked Col. white if it was legal. I asked white to let it be held, if he didn't see any insuperable objection - but he said it must be laid before the General. This Smith did. The General absolutely opposed to the meeting
111 March 9 It seems he knew - they all did, but it was news to me - that some leading officer, either col. Elliott of the Sth or Col. Johnston of the Artillery - was agitating his movement against me. The general must have taken some steps because Mayar came up I saw him & afterwards saw me I told me that the had to witndraw from the meeting & he advised me to do the same - he was bound, he said, to give me that advice; I dont think it was his real pinion. This means the meeting may still be held but Maygar may not be there. He told me that this being the case he couldn't guarantee what would be the mens behaviour. I said if the meeting were still held I'd like to go, I asked him to letone know definitely whether it were on or of. As a matter of fact I don't much relisk the idea of faiiing especially this meeting, no responsible man is in the chair; but I cant have 500 men turn up expecting to meet me & myself not be there. I asked Col. white whether I might go or not as I fiked - seeing how things stood & he said
March 112 it was entirely in my discretion. It's quite a small matter really, Bean, he said; &, you know, I'm an optinist in these matters, I always believe that if a the was right in the beginning it cant turn out wrong in the end- & you know that in this you were perfectly right. You can tell them I said so, he added. You can say I read the letter before it was sent & approved of it? I determined however not to say this. After all I have tis fact as a last resort, that these Ex-South Apicans can't kick up too much fuss because they know that what I said was true - that is, those who have read it do. I would tell them exactly what I have written & what I have done; & if they liked to get the statistics & I was proved wrong I would withdraw what I said - but as a matter of fact I know the statistics show that I was right & the proportion of old south apicans (probably chiefly old soldiers) amongst the men sent home whose. were for misconduct or services no longer required larger than, the is out of all proportion to the samber average which they ought to have. I wont
113 March 9.10.11 retract a tiy that's true; but if the S.A. fellows show ap well in the fighting, as they probably will, I'll try & give them every ounce of the credit due to them Wed. March 10. The meeting is off. I got a note about 4 or 5 in the afternoon from Maggar to that effect. I was relieved -very relieved; but also sarry, in a way, because this would have explained to the men what I did say. Mach 11. A perfectly vily day. Yesterday Thurs & today have been scorching hot, with a dry wind from the desert blowing very fiecely + borning with it clouds of dusl. (yet the men have been out trenchdegging in it for two days, both bryades; & Blamey & I found th 2nd Coyn Engineers putting upa wire Entanglement right in the thick of it about midday These hat days Col. Owen takes the God battalion out of camp very early for a march & lets the men get away
March 11.14 114 early. One of the Victoriam Colonels - Bolton, I think - bivonacs his bryade in the desert every night now inslaid of in camp. The men are getting played out + preumonia is getting prevalent again. We were trickily rid of small pax I cases & 3 deaths + it has stoppet there. Sunday March 14. over at Heleopolis again to get Maj. Brerelon to look through the strff I wrote about the New Zealanders. Ao I left camp House said: of to Hehopolis? This is the last visit you'll pay there forsome time. When I returned I saw clearly that there had been some sort of an intimation received that we were likely to start. Also I know that Birdwood had asked Sen. Maxwell to cable tome of asking wheter I could jo to the pont & has received the answer that press correspondents are not to levve Caro at present. The date when they can do To is not yet settled. That means
March 14 115 or har office that the Britih goot (ins determined to treat me as any other Press Correspondent. of course it is a slight to Australia - though I don't suppose they realise it - that the man the Austialian goot chose to send with their force to give some sort of account of it shd be treated by the war office as if they cdn't see any difference between him and the correspondent of any Enflict newspeper. They make a big difference in the case of their own Eyewitness & te Indian Eyewitness & I believe Canada has an eyiwitulss too, White who has more geneine sense on his little finger than many war office officials have in their small minds knows that I cando so harm & may do much good. There's no question of my attempting to evade censorslep. Io the representative of my country & not of a newspeper. But the war office is wnlibely to grasp the difference
116 March 15 16 Monday March 15 There's clearly a move in the air. Attacks are to be made on the trench lines i dry by the infantry, but they will be a little perfunitory Io apaid because tere's a sort of feeling in the camp that thl real business is at hand at last. I was asked over to see Hehopolis Hospital tday Maj. Barrett asked me to come, & at some in convenience. I managed it though today I shd be writing. When I got there I was left for 3/ hour whilst they took photogaphs of motor ambulances. Hs there seened no prospect of seeig the place I came away. I may go again on Thursday - arranged with Smith to do 80. Tuesday. March 16. Cooks told me twice that the mail went today. Now they say it went yesterday - the ship left early for Merseiller. In that case I messed it - with t letters, too Wedmrd wired to Sir George Reid, with
117 March 16.17. 18 Whites consent, askny of he would fet the consent of the war office to my going off with the troops on condition that I write nothing until autorised Wed. March 17. It is rumoured that our plans have been attered. One never knows what to believe. But it is said that Greece was to have come in on March 2. She did not do so. He goot fell; & Venizclos went out; & his successor is for nentrality. It is said that this prevents us from doing what some people say we were to have done - occepy Lemnos, an is law just off the entrance if the Dardanelles & wait there for the French Oxediti from Algenia which is supposed to be coming across the sea now. They say Maclagans 3idBryade is still in its toansports. Thurs March18. Out with the troops all day on a scheme. MacLauri with the first brigade surrounded y M Kay, with the second. Capt Collins weres that he is
118 March 18.19.20.21 endeavouring to get was office consent to my going with the troops: attended funeral of poor Maj. Parker who die in tw days from mening it He was an officer marked for promation Fiday March 19. At work on my book most of the day. I sent a wire to Austialia today- the first for about two or three weeks. I haven't would latily because the move was pending & I didn't want to let it be known even in Austiclic whetee we were here or had left. Left thi night for Lanor, by Express, with gen. Bridges, Colo. Howse & Bird, May: Geasfurd, Murphy, Casey & Ramsey. March EO. Saw the Lavor temple. Sat great Temple of Annon at Karnat, Teople of Mont, Temple of Khons, + Temple of Mat. I wish I could write Something in the Style of Rider Hagland. The two brigadiers are also up here, & five other officers Sand. March M. The general & Col. Howse stayed at Lapr. House says these ancient buildi

109
March 7
Maygar asked me if I would come down &
meet the South Africans & read the letter to
them & tell them, as I did the others had done to themselves,  just
why it was written & how the innocent men
going home were amply safeguarded. I
said I certainly would. He said a meeting
would be illegal but if I would come to
a social he would guarantee as far as he
was concerned that they'd give me a fair
hearing. I thought this the best thing -
I agree with him that you it is a method
that never fails with Australians, to go
& face them. They always give you a fair
deal if you do. It turned out  He let it out
that I was supposed to have been invited
to the previous meeting - & they actually
gave it out there that I had been asked
& had not attended. I dont know if
this was a bit of double work on the
part of the secretary or if he actually
sent a letter to some other address. It
was untrue - I never even knew that a meeting
had been held although everyone else seemed
to. 

 

X Three years later Smith told me that it was his
Son, a private in the transport, who had told him of it. The
boy had heard some artillery men - rough men - arranging
to waylay me on my way to the meeting tt night & lay
me out.  [At least tt is what he understood they were
going to do. They sd:  "It's up to us to see that bloke doesn't
get there." He may have misunderstood them - Anyway
he told his father - Smith didn't tell me but he had the
meeting stopped].

110
March 8. 9
Monday March 8.  Heard from Maj. Maygar that
the "social" had been arranged for Wednesday
night.  He & the committee invited me &
I accepted.

Tuesday March 9.  Capt.Smith, acting the new Provost Marshal
asked me this morning if I had heard
of a meeting of S. African veterans called to
meet me. I said I knew a social was
being held. He said he would have something
to say to it. I said I thought ^ the holding of a social evening
was not offending against military
law & that it was much the best way
for me to go down & put my points straight
to these men. He was very much against
it. So were Patterson & Griffiths. It turned
out that a man who came up from the
Field Artillery to join the police gave the
show away to Smith the night before . X
Smith asked Col. White if it was legal -
I asked White to let it be held, if he didn't
see any insuperable objection - but he
said it must be laid before the General.
This Smith did. The General ^ was absolutely opposed to the meeting. 

 

111
March 9
It seems he knew - they all did, but it
was news to me - that some leading officer,
either Col. Elliott of the 8th  or Col. Johnston of
the Artillery - was agitating this movement
against me. The General must have taken
some steps because Maygar came up & saw
him & afterwards saw me & told me that
he had to withdraw from the meeting &
he advised me to do the same - he was
bound, he said, to give me that advice; I
dont think it was his real opinion.
This means the meeting may still be held but
Maygar may not be there. He told me that
this being the case he couldn't guarantee what
would be the mens behaviour. I said if
the meeting were still held I'd like to go; &
I asked him to let me know definitely
whether it were on or off. As a matter of
fact I dont much relish the idea of facing
this meeting ^ especially if no responsible man is in
the chair; but I cant have 300 men turn up
expecting to meet me & myself not be there.
I asked Col. White whether I might go or
not as I liked - seeing how things stood & he said 

 

112

March 9
it was entirely in my discretion. "It's quite a
small matter really, Bean," he said; "&, you know,
I'm an optimist in these matters, I always believe
that if a thing was right in the beginning it cant
turn out wrong in the end.  & you know that in
this you were perfectly right. You can tell
them I said so," he added.  "You can say
I read the letter before it was sent & approved
of it."  I determined however not to say
this.  After all I have this fact as a last resort,
that these ex-South Africans cant kick up too
much fuss because they know that what I
said was true - that is, those who have read it
do. I would tell them exactly what I have
written & what I have done; & if they liked to
get the statistics & I was proved wrong I
would withdraw what I said - but as a
matter of fact I know the statistics show
that I was right & the proportion of
old South Africans (probably chiefly old
soldiers) amongst the men sent home
for misconduct or whose services ^ were "no longer required"
is out of all proportion to the numbers larger than the
average which they ought to have. I wont 

 

113
March 9. 10. 11
retract a thing that's true; but if the S.A.
fellows show up well in the fighting, as they
probably will, I'll try & give them every
ounce of the credit due to them.

Wed. March 10. The meeting is off. I got a
note about 4 or 5 in the afternoon from
Maygar to that effect. I was relieved
- very relieved; but also sorry, in a way,
because this would have explained to the
men what I did say.

Thurs. March 11.  A perfectly vile day. Yesterday
& today have been scorching hot, with
a dry wind from the desert blowing
very fiercely & bringing with it clouds
of dust. Yet the men have been out
trench digging in it for two days, both
brigades; & Blamey & I found the 2nd Coy of
Engineers putting up a wire entanglement
right in the thick of it about midday.
These hot days Col. Owen takes the
3rd battalion out of camp very early
for a march & lets the men get away 

 

114
March 11. 14
early. One of the Victorian colonels - Bolton,
I think - bivouacs his brigade in the
desert every night now instead of in camp.
The men are getting played out & pneumonia
is getting prevalent again. We were luckily
rid of small pox 7 cases & 2 deaths - &
it has stopped there.

Sunday March 14.  Over at Heliopolis again
to get Maj. Brereton to look through the
stuff I wrote about the New Zealanders.
As I left camp Howse said:  "Off to Heliopolis?
This is the last visit you'll pay there for some
time."
When I returned I saw clearly that
there had been some sort of an intimation
received that we were likely to start.
Also I know that Birdwood had asked
Gen. Maxwell to cable home f asking
whether I could go to the front &
has received the answer that "press
correspondents are not to leave Cairo
at present. The date when they can do
so is not yet settled." That means 

 

115
March 14
that the British Govt ^ or War Office is determined to treat
me as any other Press Correspondent.  Of
course it is a slight to Australia - though
I don't suppose they realise it - that the
man the Australian govt chose to send
with their force to give some sort of account
of it shd be treated by the war office as if
they cdn't see any difference between
him and the correspondent of any English
newspaper. They make a big difference
in the case of their own Eyewitness
& the Indian Eyewitness & I believe
Canada has an Eyewitness too.
White who has more genuine sense in
his little finger than many war office
officials have in their small minds knows
that I can do no harm & may do
much good. There's no question of
my attempting to evade censorship.
I'm the representative of my country
& not of a newspaper. But the war
office is unlikely to grasp the difference 

 

116
March 15. 16
Monday March 15.  There's clearly a
move in the air. Attacks are to be made on
the trench lines built dug by the infantry, but
they will be a little perfunctory I'm afraid
because there's a sort of feeling in the camp
that thes real business is at hand at
last.
I was asked over to see Heliopolis
Hospital today. Maj. Barrett asked me
to come, & at some inconvenience I managed
it though today I shd be writing. When I
got there I was left for ¾ hour whilst they
took photographs of motor ambulances.
As there seemed no prospect of seeing
the place I came away. I may go again
on Thursday - arranged with Smith to do so.

Tuesday. March 16. Cooks told me twice
that the mail went today. Now
they say it went yesterday - the ship
left early for Marseilles. In that case
I missed it - with 5 letters, too.
Wednesday. wired to Sir George Reid, with 

 

117
March 16. 17. 18
White's consent, asking if he would get the
consent of the war office to my going off with
the troops on condition that I write nothing
until authorised.
Wed. March 17. It is rumoured that our plans
have been altered. One never knows what
to believe. But it is said that Greece was
to have come in on March 2. She did
not do so. Her Govt fell; & Venizelos went
out; & his successor is for neutrality.
It is said that this prevents us from doing
what some people say we were to
have done - occupy Lemnos, an island
just off the entrance of the Dardanelles &
wait there for the French expeditn from
Algeria which is supposed to be coming
across the sea now. They say Maclagan's
3rd Brigade is still in its transports.

Thurs. March 18. Out with the troops all day
on a scheme. MacLaurin with the
first brigade surrounded McCay McKay,
with the second.
Capt Collins wires that he is 

 

118
March 18. 19. 20. 21
endeavouring to get War Office to consent to
my going with the troops.  Attended funeral of
poor Maj. Parker who died in two days from meningitis
He was an officer marked for promotion.
Friday March 19. At work on my book most
of the day. I sent a wire to Australia
today - the first for about two or three
weeks. I haven't wired lately because
the move was pending & I didn't want
to let it be known, even in Australia,
whether we were here or had left.
Left this night for Luxor, by Express,
with Gen. Bridges, Cols. Howse & Bird,
Maj: Glasfurd, Murphy, Casey & Ramsey.

Sat March 20:  Saw the Luxor temple,
Great Temple of Ammon at Karnak,
Temple of Mont, Temple of Khons, &
Temple of Mut. I wish I could write
something in the style of Rider Haggard.
The two brigadiers are also up here,
& five other officers.

Sund. March 21. The general & Col. Howse stayed
at Luxor. Howse says these ancient buildings
 

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