Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/111/1 - May 1918 - Part 1

Conflict:
First World War, 1914–18
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  • Documents and letters
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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of CE W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606177717 Title: Diary, May 1918 includes references to the 2lst and 22nd Battalions, Sgt W Ruthven VC and the Australian Corps command. AWMISS-SDRLCOGHIIH
DIAR) May 16 1958 May 201918 and Potio aker ther end of Book o Bn & 21Bn. Heanphooll Sculstor Soa R. aKegtt Reconds cet te t d 3ORL CO6 IAD 111 ALM38 DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so —but it does not follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discevered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All second-hand evidence herein should be regd, y EEReCod AUSTRALIA C. E. W. BEAN. 16 Sept, 1946. ACCESS STATUS WIMEEEEEEEEGMEEMEEEIEEIIS MMLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMS
May 16 1918 Started at 9.15 for Boulogne to meet Bazley who is bringing across some plates colour negatives - which wilkins ought not to have seat to England as they had not passed I censor. I fancy Hurley really ws responable as he wanted to keep these regatives secret from 1 English in order to have them first exhibited with his Austalian oficial, pictures On the way down I called at Bertangles & there Hunn told me to here
were great changs immineat. Birdwood ws getting an army. Blaney as down here, so he supposed while moght be getting 1 Corps heard my voice o Birdwood called me in. He showed me in. He showed me a letter wh he had written to Senator Pearce. I sd to be had inquired of Genl. Haig Shettir this was to be teke as an order - the instructor to o to 5t Army - as, if not, herd rather rening
w corps & the A.L.F. Hay had told him to it 3 ws considered decision of wer Council & to tough, if he expressed a, strong relictance his wishes wd probably be considered, he (Haig) hoped to Berdie god not take this course. Birdwood accordingly agreed not to regict the appointment He ten advised 1 Austhe fort as and follows. White Hobbs & Monash all be considered for Corps Commander. Hobbs. Le
ws doubtful of, tho he ws an Excellent Dis Commdr. This left While & Monash. He knowing whites great Capacil, ad be inclined to advise his pronotion to this office if Monash cd have bu passed over. But Monast cnot se had undoubter abilit success had met his work. Therefore he recommended monast to Command
Posenthal Caw B 11913 the Corps, white to come to him as McG.G.S of the 5th army; himself to remain J.O.C..H.I.F.. He dions ad as soon as possible be brought into his army. Blamey wd go to Corps as Chief of Steft to mon ash & Tellebrand get monash's Dion. Glasgow & Brandwd get the 6t & End Dwns as soon as Walken & Smyt left him wh B. intended to bring about shorth
18 This is a very great blow. That white shd leave 1 Corps is simply to make a missse of stef o 1 A.I.F. It white has a greatsalue to the British Army he has a greater value to dustialia. I have been tinking out the straightest strongest telepan I can to Pearce. I was not william but Hurley who brose the ceasorship regulaties
by taking those plate to England I. May 17h 1918 (riday) I met Dagley yesterday, got from him the plates; gous him thell boxcs of Anzac Book Records & war Records to take over; picked up 4 packets of was trophies which I myself had lefe at the Pay office in Bacelogue (& for the most unjugtly loas of which I have been vlaming Smart) including the precious deboes of a house at Poyires. I stand the night at the Hotel de Frand 31 des Voyageurs &
tday returned to Buerrien baving the relies at the war Manluns Depot at Hilly on the way. entered As wa dusty little Saluage office at Helly, with brown brown blankets over the doors, enstead of doors, where Gullett loes with Peters the Crps Salvage oficer, a man of the Salvage hurried up with a frightened look on his face & said. A shall has got into your place - just now - & done

AWM38
Official History,
1914-18 War:  Records of C E W Bean,
Official Historian.
Diaries and Notebooks
Item number:  3DRL606/111/1
Title:  Diary, May 1918
Includes references to the 21st and 22nd
Batallions, Sgt W Ruthven VC and the
Australian Corps command.
AWM3803DRL606/111/1
 

 

DIARY
29 Bn May 16 1918 -
May 20 1918
and Polygon - W Harker.
(Other end of Book
For Dyson  22 Bn and 21 Bn
Henry Poole - Sculptor Maury's Rd.
Chelsea Art Club   Regtl Records
No. 3.
 

Original.    DIARY NO. 111.
AWM 38      3DRL 606 ITEM 111 [1]
DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918
The use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial.  But, apart from those terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.
These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true.  The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer's mind.  Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep ;
also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered.  Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.
These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing, believed.  Further, he cannot, of course, vouch
for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded.  But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events.  The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true.  All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
16 Sept., 1946.    C.E.W. BEAN.
AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN

 

102    1
[*111*]
May 16. 1918 Started at 9.15 for Boulogne to
meet Bazley who is bringing across some plates
- colour negatives - which Wilkins ought
not to have sent to England as they had
not passed / Censor.  I fancy Hurley really
ws responsible as he wanted to keep these
negatives secret from / English in order to
have them first exhibited with his Australian
official pictures.
On the way down, I called at
Bertangles & there Hunn told me tt there

 

102     2
were great changes imminent.  Birdwood
ws getting an army.  Blamey ws down
here, so he supposed White might be getting
/ Corps.
Birdwood ^ heard my voice & called me in.  He showed
me in.  He showed me a letter wh he had
written to Senator Pearce.  It sd tt he
had inquired of Gen. Haig whether this was
to be taken as an order - the instructn to go
to 5th Army - as, if not, he wd rather remain

 

102      3
w / corps & the A.I.F.  Haig had told him tt it
ws / considered decision o / War Council
& tt though, if he expressed a strong reluctance,
his wishes wd probably be considered, he (Haig)
hoped tt Birdie wd not take this course.
Birdwood accordingly agreed not to
reject the appointment.
He then advised / Austln Govt as
follows. White Hobbs & Monash were must all be
considered for Corps Commander.  Hobbs he

 

102     4
ws doubtful of, tho' he ws an
excellent Divl Commdr.  This left
White & Monash.  He, knowing Whites
great capacity, wd be inclined to advise
his promotion to this office if Monash
cd have bn passed over.  But Monash
cd not; he had undoubted ability &
success had met his work.  Therefore he
recommended Monash to command

 

? Rosenthal
C.E.W.B.
11/9/37

102     5
the Corps, White to come w him as
M.G.G.S of the 5th Army ; himself
to remain G.O.C., A.I.F.  The divns
wd as soon as possible be brought
into his army.  Blamey wd go to
Corps as Chief of Staff to Monash &
Gellibrand get Monash's Divn.  Glasgow
& Brand wd get the 1st & 2nd Divns
as soon as Walker & Smyth left them
wh B. intended to bring about shortly.

 

102     6
This is a very great blow.  That White
shd leave / Corps is simply to make
a misuse o / staff o / A.I.F.  If
White has a great value to the British
Army he has a greater value to
Australia.  I have been thinking
out the straightest strongest telegram
I can to Pearce.
[It was not Wilkins but Hurley
who broke the censorship regulations

 

102    7
by taking those plates to England.]
May 17. 1918 (Friday)  I met Bazley yesterday;
got from him the plates ; gave him three
boxes of Anzac Book Records & War Records
to take over; picked up 4 packets of
war trophies which I myself had left
at the Pay Office in Boulogne (& for the
loss of which I have been ^ most unjustly blaming Smart)
including the precious debris of a house
at Pozieres.  I stayed the night at the
Hotel de France et de Voyageurs &

 

102     8
today returned to Querrien leaving the
relics at the War Museums Depot at
Ailly on the way.
As we got into the I entered the dusty little salvage
office at Ailly, with brown brown blankets
over the doorways instead of doors, where
Gullett lives with Peters the Corps Salvage
Officer, a man of the salvage hurried
up with a frightened look on his
face and said: "A shell has got
into your place - just now - & done

 

 

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