General, Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 22, 10 April - 1 June 1919- Part 5

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DUISCONAL NAVAL TRANSPORT OFFICER 26APR1919 H.M. DOCKVARD (NORTH) DEVONPORT. R.N. TRANSPORT BASE, DEVONPORT. 26th April 1919. TO ALL WHOM IT MAY CONCERN. General Sir John Monash, G.C.M.G., K.C.B., V.D., A.I.F., is hereby given permission to embark at Plymouth in S.S. "OSTERLEY" and to proceed in the ship to London. It is requested that all necessary assistance be rendered to this Officer by all concerned. (ect Captain, R.N. Divisional Naval Transport Officer,
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CHR/FB CONFERENCE 7.5.19. ---------- Present:- Director-General D/Director-General. Director 2.D. D.M.S, A.I.F. Brig.-General McGlinn. Commander Parker. ------- Director-General opened by saying that Conferences would be held fortnightly in future instead of weekly. Asked Commander Parker to say what numbers of men would certainly be shipped during May. Commander Parker said that, not taking into account the Devanha, and five other ships carried over from April, the absolute certainty was 21,000. D.G. asked what Ships were certainties for May. Commander Parker said - Devanha, Wahehe, Zealandia, Orontes, Port Napier, ypiranga, Durham, Bremen, Nestor, Borda, Osterley, Rio Padro, Rio Negro, Beltana, and Soudan. The "possibles" are Aeneas, Madras, Themistocles and Milttades. The uncertainties (possibly end of May or early June) were Port Darwin and Somali. The Windhuk is not likely to sail in May. The Maheno is a possible family ship for late May or for June. Other June Ships are:- Prinz Hubertus, Friederichsruh, Swakopunnd, Port Lincoln, K.Luise and Frankfurt. Director-General informed General McGlinn that 22,000 would probably be the May embarkations, thus leaving 8,000 out of the present 30,000 in Depots, to be carried over to June. 24,000, and To this add 16 Quotas now en route to England - say 6,000 Australians in British Army, making a total for June of 30,000. Director 2.D stated that the Winchester Repatriation Camp was receiving a fair share of space on transports. Director-General asked Commander Parker whatthe Shipping prospects were for June. Commander Parker said o 26 ships, carrying 28,000 men. Of these, 2 ships, carrying 2,000, were allotted to Munition Workers, leaving a balance of 26,000 for A.I.F. This did not include the following proposed family ships for June:- Orsova, Berrima, and Maheno. Director-General said that by June the bulk of the men except late categories and "demobilisers" will be embarked, therefore the Family Ship accommodation can be increased at the expense of troop accommodation. Commander Parker said that Ormonde was a May Family Ship, though sailing in June.
AU" .2. D.M.S. said he has only 210 invalids remaining, almost all of which can travel on troopships. There may be a few cot cases to go late in May or early in June. Director-General asked how the matter of accommodation in Depots stood. General McGlinn said it was quite well provided for. He has a few men in tents. Director-General asked what would be the position in July, when all invalids and all formed Quotas would have sailed, leaving 10,000 to 20,000 personnel unorganised and scattered. Would shipping Ministry resent any failure to No data is available as to rate at which fill Ships? these 20,000 could be collected. Commander Parker said that provided fitting of ships had not commenced, ships could be diverted to other uses and no liability incurred. Director-General desired General McGlinn to adopt a method whereby a Daily State of personnel in Depots would be made up, showing "Non Demobilisables" and "Demobilisables". D.M.S. asked what camps would be closed, and when. General McGlinn said Weymouth would be the first, probably in June, then Hurdcott, Codford, Heytesbury and finally Sutton Veny. fihin a Director 2.D. said that he found difficulty in -lfalling all the first class accommodation at his disposal. Director-General said that Director 1. D had been in¬ structed to classify the personnel in N.M.E. in June into "Available" and "Not Available" for embarkation. Director-General instructed that all future applications from Officers for N.M.E.were to be carefully scrutinised. Director 2.D. raised the question of Cement wash in lieu of sheathing for decks. Director-General desired D.M.S, Commander Parker and Director 2.D. each to submit a memorandum on this point. Commander Parker mentioned the matter of passages at Admiralty rates for Non-dependents. D.M.S. said that it would be January 1920 before he could close down all Medical Units and embark last medical personnel. There were the V.D. and other hospitals to consider. Director-General asked whether sufficient Officers and specialist personnel were coming from France for Quotas. General McGlinn said he was satisfied. D/Director-General said that later drafts ef present non¬ demobilisables would probably be short of cooks, etc.
.3. The matter of N.M.%. for present non-demobilisables was touched upon. The Conference then rose. As Brig.-General. D/Director-General. Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept,A.I.F. 8.5.19.
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Plymouth - [[Liet?]]  26/4/19


Worn & Carried         Leather suit case

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Slippers

Pyjamas.

6 Handkerchiefs

Hair brushes.

Clothes brush.

Spare Collar

Spare tie

Holdall

Toilet articles 

Shaving Kit

Soap

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Spare sox

Spare pipe

Spare Tobacco 

Cigarette Supply

Oranges

Bed socks.

Matches
Leather Portfolio
1 handkerchief.
Pearce papers
Bert & V papers.
Cheque book.

 

DIVISIONAL NAVAL

TRANSPORT OFFICER

26 APR 1919

H.M. DOCKYARD (NORTH),

DEVONPORT.

R.N. TRANSPORT BASE,

DEVONPORT.

26th April 1919.

 

TO ALL WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.

General Sir John Monash, G.C.M.G, K.C.B., V.D., A.I.F., is hereby

given permission to embark at Plymouth is S.S. "OSTERLEY" and to 

proceed in the ship to London. 

It is requested that all necessary assistance be rendered to this 

officer by all concerned.

 

[Signature, see original document]

Captain, R.N., 

Divisional Naval Transport Officer 

[Signature, see original document]

 

 

RD     1/5/19

General Monash & the Tanks.

To The Editor of the Times

Sir,

Your correspondent "P" in your issue of April 30 has generously 

and quite correctly assumed that the condensed report of my allusion to the 

Tanks misrepresented what I really said. - I intended to convey no more 

than your correspondent has himself quite accurately stated, that it

fell to the lot of the Australian Corps to apply ∧for the first time at the battle of Hamel, a

new system of tactics, or rather a new method of Cooperation between the 

Tanks & infantry. - This was ∧also I believe the first occasion that the new Mark V tanks

were employed in battle, & proved themselves so formidable and decisive a 

factor in that our victory. - The last thing I would wish have wished to do

was to disparage the fine initiative of the Tank Corps, or the value of the 

splendid work done by the its brilliant Commander & Staff. -

I remain [[?]] 

 

 

 

The Lord Steward 

has received The King's commands to invite 

Lady Monash

to be present at Buckingham Palace, 

on the occasion of the 

Triumphant March of the Dominion Troops before

His Majesty The king

on Saturday, May 3rd at 2p.m.

You are requested to be in your place by 1.45 p.m.

 

[*Ric.*] CHF/FB

CONFERENCE 7.5.19.

 

Present: - Director-General

                         D/Director-General. 

          Director 2.D.

        D.M.S, A.I.F.

                              Brig.-General McGlinn. 

                         Commander Parker.

Director-general opened by saying that Conferences

would be held fortnightly in future instead of weekly. 

Asked Commander Parker to say what numbers of men

would certainly be shipped during May. 

Commander Parker said that, not taking into account

the Devanha, and give other ships carried over from April,

the absolute certainty was 21,000.

D.G. asked what Ships were certainties for May. 

Commander Parker said - Devanha, Wahehe, Zealandia, 

Borda, Orontes, Port Napier, ZYpiranga, Durham, Bremen, Nestor, 

Osterley, Rio Padro, Rio Negro, Beltana, and Soudan. 

The "possibles" are Aeneas, Madras, Themistocles and 

Miltiades. 

The uncertainties (possibly end of May or ealry June)

were Port Darwin and Somali. 
The Windhuk is not likely to sail in May. 

The Maheno is a possible family ship for late May or

for June. 

Other June Ships are: - Prinz Hubertus, Friederichsruh,

Swakopunnd, Port Lincoln, K.Luise and Frankfurt. 

Director-General informed General McGlinn that 22,000 

would probably be the May embarkations, thus leaving 8,000 out

of the present 30,000 in Depots, to be carried over to June. 

To this add 16 Quotas now en route to England = 24,000, and 

say 6,000 Australians in British Army, making a total for June 

of 30,000. 

Director 2.D stated that the Winchester Repatriation Camp 

was receiving a fair share of space on transports. 

Director-General asked Commander Parker whatthe Shipping

prospects were for June. 

Commander Parker said o 26 ships, carrying 28,000 men.

Of these, 2 ships, carrying 2,000, were allotted to Munition

Workers, leaving a balance of 26,000 for A.I.F.

This did not include the following proposed family ships

for June:- Orsova, Berrima, and Maheno.

Director-General said that by June the bulk of the men

except late categories and "demobilisers" will be embarked, 

therefore the Family Ship accommodation can be increased at the

expense of troop accommodation. 

Commander Parker said that Ormonde was a May Family Ship,

though sailing in June. 

 

 

.2.
D.M.S said he has only 210 invalids remaining, almost
all of which can travel on troopships. There may be a few
cot cases to go late in May or early in June.
Director-General asked how the matter of accommodation
in Depots stood.
General McGlinn said it was quite well provided for.
He has a few men in tents.
Director-General asked what would be the position|
in July, when all invalids and all formed Quotas would have
sailed, leaving 10,000 to 20,000 peronnel unorganised and
scattered. Would shipping Ministry resent any failure to
fill Ships? No data is available as to rate at which
these 20,000 could be collected.
Commander Parker said that provided fitting of ships
had not commenced, ships could be diverted to other uses
and no liability incurred.
Director-General desired General McGlinn to adopt
a method whereby a Daily State of personnel in Depots would
be made up, showing "Non Demobilisables" and "Demobilisables".
D.M.S. asked what camps would be closed, and when.
General McGlinn said Weymouth would be the first, probably
in June, then Hurdcott, Codford, Heytesbury and finally Sutton
Veny.
Director 2.D. said that he found difficulty in fulfilling filling
all the first class accommodation at his disposal.
Director-General said that Director 1.D had been instructed
to classify the personnel in N.M.E. in June into
"Available" and "Not Available" for embarkation.
Director-General instructed that all future applications
from Officers for N.M.E. were to be carefully scrutinised.
Director 2.D. raised the question of Cement wash in
lieu of sheathing for decks.
Director-General desired D.M.S, Commander Parker and
Director 2.D. each to submit a memorandum on this point.
Commander Parker mentioned the matter of passages at
Admirability rates for Non-dependants.
D.M.S said that it would be January 1920 before he could
close down all Medical Units and embark last medical personnel.
There were the V.D. and other hospitals to consider.
Director-General asked whether sufficient Officers
and specialist personnel were coming from France for Quotas.
General McGlinn said he was satisfied.
D/Director-General said that later drafts of present non-demobilisables would probably be short cooks, etc.

 

.3.
The matter of N.M.SE. for present non-demobilisables
was touched upon.
The Conference then rose.
[* [[C H ?]]*]
Brig.-General.
D/Director-General.
Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept. A.I.F.
8.5.19.

 

[*RD*]
8/5/19
Australian Corps
For General Hobbs [[aaa?]] Can car be made available
At Boulogne from arrival meet boat Boulogne Friday May sixteen
until departure boat Tuesday May twenty [[aaa?]] Monash
[[Demsbaust?]]
 

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