General, Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 22, 1 February - 10 April 1919- Part 7










& not & after than the xxxxx period of time that he has been a soldier. - If this principle of
discrimination were conceded, it would involve xxx a much closer investigation
of each man's war service; and it could not be just as forcibly urgent that the
man's who first entry into a theatre of war, or the man who first came under fire a man's first participation in battle
should give him have precedence in repatriation. - Here take in BB
A little reflection will show that, however desirable it might be to classify
men for repatriation in accordance with the character, quality & value of their
war service, it is clearly quite impracticable to do so, when seeing that the separate
claims of some 200,000 men would have to be considered
in detail. - On the other hand,
quantity total length of war services, as distinct from quality, is a simple standard,
which can be easily measured, ascertain and applied, and which, in
then broadest sense, is the a fair criterion of quality also
A.I.F. -
(BB) AS quality or length of service is therefore the only practicable standard
If then is clear conceded it only remains to justify, the policy of measuring the quality of service from data of enlistment, instead of from date of embarkment.
Why should that portion of a man's war service which he spent in Australia
in training or other military duty be left out of the reckoning? - It would be
just as logical to leave out the time he spent, in comparative rest, on board
ship, or in the training camps in England, or in hospital.
(AA) Which is the greater hardship? To grant to the comparatively few men who
were Kept a longer time than the average on military duty
in Australia before embarkation a longer time
[[?]] the average, the same status as everyone else, or to deny to them
altogether any recognition whatever of the services rendered in Australia? - Those
who are inclined to favor the latter policy appear to forget that in all cases except
a negligible few, such Australians service prior to embarkation was not optional & in any case meant complete
withdrawal from civil life & from home & family. - There is, in any case, no general rule which
can be applied devised which that would not operate in some few cases too liberally, and
in others two harshly. I
RD 10/3/19
I.D. (Col Bruche.)
1. In order that the Department of Repatriation in Melbourne may be
Kept fully informed of all that is being done, in Europe, in the direction
of assisting members of the A.I.F. in now military employment, covering
Education, in all its activities, & Industrial training & employment, it has become urgently necessary to consider the methods
by which this can be effectively & comprehensively carried out.
2. As a first step it will be necessary to ensure that a proper Register in
Kept, by Branch I.D, in regard to every individual, containing the
fullest particulars, from which Register all kinds of information can
be extracted & compiled, for future war & reference. -
3. It is suggested that this Register should consist, primarily, of a loose
leaf portfolio∧ [[?]] of pilot files containing a printed form one for each individual, arranged
Alphabetically, so that each individual name can be speedily turned
up & the leaf referring to him extracted. - It will probably be desirable
To keep such a register in duplicate, or even triplicate. -
4. The loose leaf will take the form of a printed sheet, the compilation
of which must be fully considered, but which will contain, at least,
the following essential particulars : -
Name, Rank Regt. No, Unit, Length of Service in A.I.F.
Pre-war occupation or employment.
Nature of training non-military employment arrange by this
Department, its duration & how availed of by the recipient
of these advantages.
Bases of grants, allowances, pay, fees &c makes in each case.
General remarks as to manner in which the privileges granted
have been used to advantage, from a 'Repatriation' point of
view
5. A printed form covering above (& any other desired) information, should
be drafted & submitted for approval. -
6. One copy of each form should be retained on Departmental Register,
one copy should be posted, in advance, to the Department of Repatriation
, as soon as each individual is launched upon his training,
& one copy (completed) should be sent to Melbourne either in advance
of, or with the individual when he embarks for Australia.
/ p.t.o
7. The above is merely an outline proposal, and must be carefully considered
in all its bearings, before final action; & the idea requires
to be developed to cover all requirements that can be foreseen. The
ultimate objects as are to ensure: -
(a) that the Department of Repatriation is Kept fully informed,
in advanced, of what is being done here
(b) that the Department should know, as to each man, what
expenditure has already been incurred & with the purpose.
(c) that the training of the individual is fully made use of in
any subsequent activities of the Department after his
disembarkation in Australia. -
8. Please consider whole ∧ of above subject exhaustively & submit [[concrete]]
proposals for necessary machinery & procedure. -
S R Gen
RD Draft reply 10/3/19
Replying Cable Prime Minister Department March fourth all
instructions comprehended and xxxxx will be aaa Ask Defence show
Repatriation my General Instructions already carrying xxxxx most into effect these matters aaa
Reference Australian soldiers not members A.I.F. War office has agreed pay
passages for soldiers and dependents we finding accomodation on
our transports whenever required
12 MAR 1919
Prime Minister of Australia
to &c Paris
Have now embarked thirty seventhousand
five hundred Soldiers excluding dependents and
munitions being just over one quarter of total
personnel in Europe when I began demobilization on
December first aaa No appreciable improvement in
outlook for increased accelerated sailings ∧ rate of embarkations for next six
weeks. - aaa Monash
Demobaust
Despatched 12 noon on 10/3/19
[[?]]
LtCol. Boswick
to send above
JM
11/3/19
RL&C
12 /3/19
Conference (McGlim)
Wednesday - March 12/19
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Crossing of Quota 15
" " 16
" " 17 & 18
Recommencing flow 19 et fol
Dates of ships Sailings.
[[?]] reports in House of Commons
Permanent Ship's Staffs - notifying them
Credentials.
Crossing to Weymouth by night
[[?][] - Medical board procedure - in field.
RD 12/3/19
A.G.D Depot
Havre.
Nothing definite received here to show whether
Quota Fifteen is just now complete at Havre. aaa
Addressed AGBD Havre, repeated Demob Aust Liaison
G. N. Q. aaa
Demobaust
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12/3/19
R.D 12/3/19
Q.M.G;G.H.Q.
For Demobaust Liaison aaa Delay quota sixteen
at Havre so that it reaches depots England not before
March twentieth Similarly delay quotas seventeen and
eighteen to reach England no before March twenty fourth aaa Issue
warning orders for eight additional quotas commencing with
Number nineteen but arrange entrainments so that Quota
nineteen reaches England on March thirty first or after aaa
Acknowledge aaa Addressed Demobaust Liaison G.H.Q,
repeated Australian Corps, Aust Base Depot Havre. Salaustra
and Seasail
Demobaust
R.D 13/3/19
Dear Mr Campbell
I have just received your letter of January 24th
and hasten to xxx end you these few lines of acknowledgement
and thanks
I esteem if a very high honor, and one which
I warmly appreciate, to be elected on Honorary Fellow of the
R.V.I.A., and I beg you to [[?]] to your Council & to
the whole Insitute my earnest thanks for this xxxxxx mark of
their recognition and esteem.
I enclose herewith Form VIII nomination form duly signed -
Kindly convey to all members of the Insitute to whom I am personally
Known my kindest regards and good wishes
Yours very sincerely
RD 15/3/19
Q.M.G;G.H.Q.
For Demobaust Liaison aaa
Searail has definitely agreed increase cross channel shipping
to five thousand per week commencing April first aaa
you will therefore accelerate entrainments of Quotas from
number nineteen onwards aaa Acknowledge. Aaa
Addressed & Demo[[?]] Liaison repeated A.B.D. Havre xxxx
Australian Corps, Embarkaust Weymouth and Salaustra
Searail Demobaust
Receipt held from Cables
dated 15/3 at [[?]] am
[[?]]
Acknowledge by
Demb Liaison, [[?]]-Corps
ESO Weymouth. [[?]]
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