General, Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 22, 2 January - 1 February 1919- Part 3

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8/1/19 P.D.G. Drafo Cable Hl Stralis contingent yo a Reperence leave Egypt to England whole question affcted t shipping available and may smriously prolong demobilization period an dssurning shipping procurable cable me estimate who aond befer numbers applying likely appey and be recommended for English drawing rate of leave with Full pay and six shitlings perday subsistence white in Crmpt shipment Austratia directan England (in preference obvinse sall then Decirable limt use this privitye to avoid breatdown by aaking too much an truidel by you estimates I shall make bet arangements possible. Reporence leave E Egypt to England are this contingent upon shipping available, also may seriously prolong deneobiliy ation period asa If demand for such leave considerable may render plization impossible ase Cable me rough estimate numbers who in preferece promptes return Austratia detect would claim English leave with Full drawing rate pay plus six shillings per day subsistence allowance while in England ass Guided by such estimate shall make best arrangements possible and advise you. Respatched
Confirence Offende 6 Mr Cay 1p0 Denr 2 Whittan present 23 10001 33 15000 5000 Davrs has 3500 Troops at Depot &aface f 2500. Want Itram on t interd of1 day. Ide another 5000 /1915 men all
1/1/19 H Type Velare Lifth Arrg 4334/5/55 Your &520 of 9th aaa. How of troops England to France cannot resume until block at Havie depots has been cleared aaa Have been in Communication with G.H. S France re this and they promise trains from Havie to Corps early next week aad when this done flow from England to France of remaining new drafts will resume until completion thus clearing English depots saa Ample accomodation now in English depots for reception of all Enbarkarion Guotas asked for ano from France No casuals being sent from England to France aan addressed ArF Fifth Army repeated Aust Corp Im an HCDS Havre 1/19
1119 N1 nm army Your T.520 9 9th asa How of Troops England to France cannot resume until block at Havve depots has been cleased asa Have been communy cation with to. H.A. France &c this and they promise t ins from Havre to Coops eatly next week ase When this done flow from England to France of until completion remaining new drafts will resume agaNo Canals being sent from England to Francd, thus clearing English Depots ana) Ample accomodation now in English Depote tol reception of all Embarkation Qnotas asked for to intrance. as Addressed AS.F. Faft Army repented Ansto. Coops and AGBD Have Were despatched 11/1/19
12/19 Coe. Bruche Conference ✓ Personal & his State 2. Reasons for bringing him over. Durvent not is bad - agrees 3. Independence & relieve me - but keep me inpmed. I 1.D.- Its ambit + Its relation) with others stranche Individual applications dd 5. poliey methal rapidity ✓ Corespondence to me Duvant to carryon. I C. Edneation hong & his fanx pas & Apic Collep - Depot & Baschule, M.F.S 7. Inductrial he going citation 8. Propagande fren inapie going at once. I ✓ Aubitton 2000o. dis to me I 9t. Proceduce dooth in my confidence I Recom- I Statistics. I constructive, Cocative & opinating. I 10. Poling Attitude Utmost genervaity & sympathy 11. Military Adminiitation of Employed pesonnal McCay's gurindiction. Lianon with McCay & all other. 12. shall submit policy preations to him to advice. I papes) from hong - no note fe Durvant
1 Conference 13/1/19 Bouche T0o tlacks came ovr ho men with 10 Den Dec Class guatifications. the sructe had not On forenoon of D yet recoved an telegram on the do00 mone tmed Whithan My a the 34 days pay goanted Anly after man gete beaok him leave Bruch G. H.C. won't takle our Spers he te isAoty cant be seducal.- Ceaspatchen tor Umform to be paer before Lepdeting
£ 57
Confernentes 13//124 Regulation (Whitham) Conference with Whitharn Agende & Setestiing ntendiant, te tauithhert, Hen Gott A & ptf olooge, whitt am comp to Clerk so Hant to refer then & d.H. Depots oBranctes. Number all part D Haters fos land sime to all santh Gep Et copie Whittam D.D.G 2.D. MrcCay self. spare Haan Ma H pette of prping t. Symis. Custe, Aut, Doys capitat. JD pa& 2091548 prtning Hu 21/2. ticD tt W.P. Sheets Can Haore do be d3 Annoyate to Set D Calt it Appenig Meaninge $ 14 b Bes tiipore fries to discutetation St Ser to stap 1o7 Blant apay 2 D.R.G – hilf mentional P.M.. not n Medican Pupon to refete Braucher- but Peotonet Dgest he may take Copy to be typed to Srecie (G.. abo it today plsao cup In footh fthe Letter to Davio. shin tam to Loott to erstify H. platt am. W mecege sguipment
18/19 Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept. A.L.F. 54, Victoria Street, SW 1. L 0 n d 0 n. Director General, Repatriation & Demob. Dept. A.L.F. Herewith draft lecture and precis for delivery to the troops. The lecture may be expanded, if desired, from Notes on Demobilisation for lectures’ Kherewith) prepared for Corps lecturers by me, but it thought that a long address would not be effective. The lecturer should make himself thoroughly familiar with General Instructions and so be able to invite and answer (He should be nominated forthwith to enable him to questions. do this. It is thought that the officers and N.C. Os might be separately addressed from the same material, but also pointing out to them - (1) the responsibility of their present position requesting them to emphasise the importance of maintaining control and inspiring confidence during the short, but difficult period ahead of them in the A.L.F. (2) Familiarising themselves with General Instructions, particu- larly No.7, so as to be able to answer questions by the men. A copy of the lecture might be handed to the Officers. We Denny S Castain. 13th. January, 1919.
Conference 15//19 McCay General His letter or Accomosation Gustas adjuited for ships. Biweekly a for f Appeoral of By Denat. Reys. Embespetion organiptions Starting tns t France Q.1. form. (as used in the Depots Use in U.K. prepared - Unit Cop t so with may to Havoe. Keeping a Eluplicate Cty A.M. at Unit. if D.1A F V. W. Hept No copy to be bred by O.S Quster a pt.
 

[*R

8/1/19*]

D.D.G

Draft Cable for Stralis

Reference leave Egypt to England whole question contingent who Contigent upon influende affected

by shipping available and may seriously prolong demobilization

period aaa Assuming Shipping procurable cable me estimate

number who apparently likely would prefer & apply and be recommended

for English

leave with full ^drawing rate of pay and six shillings per day subsistence while in

England in preference carrier prompter shipment Australia direct aaa

donate them  obviously desirable limit use this privilege to avoid breakdown in

asking too much aaa Guided by your estimates I will make

best arrangements possible.

 

Reference leave Eoyt Egypt to England aaa This contingent upon

shipping available, also may seriously prolong demobilization

period aaa If demand for such leave considerable may render

mobilization impossible aaa Cable me rough estimate numbers

who in preference prompted return Australian direct would claim

English leave with full drawing rate play plus six shillings per day

subsistance allowance while England aaa Guided by such

estimate shall make best arrangement possible and advise you.

[*Despatched*]

 

 

 

Conference

Agenda

8/1/19

McCoy

Davis

Whittam               Present

2D

3D

11300

 2500

             

ll7000ll

             

             

15000

 5000

             

Davis has 3500 Troops at Depôt

& space for 2500. -

Want 3 train on interims

of 1 day.-

Order another 8000 /1915

over

 

 

RDG

[*11/1/19

Type Telegram

4334/5/55*]

A.I.F.

Fifth Army

Your T 520 of 9th aaa.

Flow of troops England to France cannot

resume until block at Havre depôts

has been cleared aaa Have been

in Communication with G.H.Q. France

re this and they promise trains

from Havre to Corps early next

week aaa When this done flow

from England to France of

remaining new drafts will resume

until completion thus clearing

England depots aaa Ample

accomodation now in English 

depots for reception of all 

Embarkation Quotas asked for

from France ^aaa No casuals being

sent from England to France

aaa Addressed AIF Fifth

Army repeated Aust Corp

and A G BD Havre

JM

11/1/19

 

 

[*RDG

11-1-19*]

A.I.F.

Fifth Army

Your T 520 of 9th aaa. Flow of Troops England 

to France cannot resume until block at Havre 

depots has been cleared aaa Have been

communication with G.H.Q. France re this and they promise 

trains from Havre to Corps early next week aaa 

When this done flow from England to France of

remaining new drafts will resume aaa ^until completion No 

casuals being sent from England to France

thus clearing English depôts aaa 

Ample accomodation now in English Depôts for 

reception of all Embarkation Quotas asked for

from France aaa Addressed AIF Fifth Army 

repeated Aust Corp and A G BD Havre

Wire despatched

11/1/19

 

 

12/1/19

Col. Bruche

Conference

  1. Personal & his status √
  2. Reasons for bringing him over             |

                       Durrant not so bad - agree  |  √  

3. Independence & relieve one - but kept me informed. √

4. I.D. - Its ambit  √

              Its relations with others & branches  √

5.  'Individual Applications'  - rush  √

                                                       policy  √

                                                       method  √ 

                                                       rapidity   √

               Correspondence to me                     

                                               Durrant to carry on  √

6. Education - Long & his faux pad  √

                           Aptic College - Depôt  √

7. Industrial - Burchell, M.T.  √

                          he going  √

                          situation   √

8. Propaganda - Men imagine going at once -  √

                                Ambition 20000. -   √

9. Procedure - direct to me  √

                           Foott in my confidence √

                            Records. -  √

                            Statistics.  √

                            Constructive, Creative & Originating √

10. Policy Attitude

                         Utmost generosity & sympathy

11. Military Administration of Employed personnel

                                  Mc Coys' jurisdiction

                             Liaison with McCoy & all others. -

12. Shall submit policy questions to him for advice

                     2 papers from Long - 20 note from Durrant.

 

 

 

R

Conference

13/1/19.-

Bruche

500 Clerks came over from

France in Decr. - Men with 1st

Class qualifications. -

On forenoon of 10th Bruche had not

yet received any telegram on the 2000

more 1915 men.

Whittam

Why is the 30 days pay granted

only after man gets back from leave

Bruche 

G.H.Q. won't take over spare horses

           ∴ Arty. can't be reduced. -

Color patches for Uniform to be given before

disembarking.

 

 

 

 

5/-   107 -

310.-7

 

£1/5/0

 

 

 

Conference

13/1/189

Regulations (Whittam)

Conference with Whittam 

Agenda

  1. Selection of Subordinate,  for Rail Work, Win G.H.Q & A.I.F. & Corps, Whittam comng.-

do  Clerks to.-

Want to refer them to U.K. Depôts Number all parars

2. Notes: - (a) Can't issue to all ranks.   Get 6 copies - Whittam)

                                                                                                  D.D.G)

                                                                                                   2.D)

                                                                                                   McCoy)

                                                                                                   Self)

                                                                                    √             Spare)

Foott to arrange Kings Messenger
Service to Whitlam                                      Typist. Quote, Unit, Draft Capitals.

2.  Sec B. para 4 2                                          Instructions to A.Dvs, A.I.F. H.Q re

See D.1 - 'and W.P. shuts'                             sea kit bags Sec D.5.   Foott
Can Havre do Sec d.3
Annex use to Sec D. - call it appendix
Meaning of Sec I (1)   (b) 

New uniforms - prior to disembarkation
See Sec E Stage (5)
Blank in page 8 (c)                                         D.D.G - Whitham mentioned
                                                                             D.M.S. notes in Medical

Propose to refer to Branches - but             Personnel. - Suggest      [*F*]
he may take copy to be typed                      a special G.I. about it
today.                                                                   Lt Millard over. -   cute
See Foott on this

                                                                               Letter to Davis              )
Foott to notify W.O. & Whitham                    re using Havre to         )   W
                                                                                receive equipment     )

 

 

[*RDt          15/1/19.
Lecture*]
Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept. A.I.F.
54, Victoria Street, 
London. SW1
Director Genral,
Repatriation & Demob. Dept. A.I.F.
herewith draft lecture and precise for delivery to 
the troops. the lecture may be expanded, if desired from, from
"Notes on Demobilisation for lectures" (herewith) prepared for
Corps lecturers by me, but it ^is thought that a long address would
not be effective.

The lecturer should make himself thoroughly familiar
with General Instructions and so be able to invite and answer
questions.  He should be nominated forthwith to enable him to
do this.
It is thought that the Officers and N.C.Os might be 
separately addressed from the same material, but also pointing 
out to them -
(1) the responsibility of their present position requesting them
to emphasise the importance of maintaining control and inspiring
confidence during the short, but difficult period ahead of the
in the A.I.F.

(2) Familiarising themselves with General Instructions, particularly 
No. 7, so as to be able to answer questions by the men. A
copy of the lecture might be handed to teh Officers,
WJ Denny
Captain.
13th. January, 1919.

 

 

Conference     15/1/19
General McCoy

His letter re accomodation. -
Quotas adjusted for ships. -
Embarkation organization.
Bi weekly data no Space. -
Approval for Army Demob regs.-
Starting flow to France.-
Use of Q.1. form. ( as used in the depots
in U.K.)
prepared in Unit
1 copy goes with men to Havre.-
Keeping in duplicate by Q.M. at Unit. -
No Copy in D. 11 for U.K. Depôt

to be brought by O.C. Quota or Draft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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