General, Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 22, 2 January - 1 February 1919- Part 2

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Sorer 5 av 7.1.19. NOTES OF INTERVIEN WITH PRIXE MINISTER AT HAMPSTEAD ON JANUARY 5th, 1919. Discussed the anxieties of Australia regarding personnel arriving other than in organised Units. Explained that it was impossible to commence shipping organised Units until after the Depots in England had been cleared, about the beginning of February. Submitted to Mr. Hughes a draft of cable informing Australia of the true position. He gave his authority for me to have this sent. Discussed the question of final embarkation from French 2. or British ports, or both. Explained my reasons for wishing to confine embarkation to English ports and stating that G.H.9. agreed with me but that the War Office was inclinced to make difficulties. Mr. Hughes instructed me to draft a letter for him to sign which he proposes to send to Lord Milner on this subject. I explained my general scheme of demobilisation, to which Mr. Hughes gives a general concurrence. I raised the question of leave from Egypt. Mr. Hughes says that the Australian Government has definitely committed itself to the grant of such leave, but he recognises the eifficulties involved as regards shipping and in consequence the delay to general demobilisation. He instruets me to cable to Egypt asking how many are likely to avail themselves of leave and conveying to them that if this privilege is likely to be required for considerable numbers, it may be impossible to grant it owing to shipping difficulties. efpeet Subsistence allowance. I explain the st of Defence Department's last cable as not appreciably improving the position. I submit draft cable on this subject Mr. Hughes is sympathetio. for him to send.- He agrees to send it, (and it was in fact sent the same night with small additions.) Subsistenee allowance to men in non-military employment. In consequence of Australia agreeing to raise the daily rate from 4/- to 6/- I propose to increase the allowance to non-militarly employed personnel, as minimym subsistence from 28/- to 42/-. Mr. Hughes agrees to this. Mr. Hughes refers to the memorandum authorising me to cable without reference to him on matters of detail while he is away in Paris, and tells me that he proposes to further modify the memorandum so as to give me still greater freedom. Nr. Hughes states that an scrial post to Aerial post. Paris is being organised and that I am to make use of it to reach him rapidly in Paris. Lieut.-General. Director-General. Repatriation t Demobilisation, A.I.F. 7.
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CHE/FB £ 8 N E E R E N C E A Conference will be held in the Director-General's Office at 1/ a.m. on Wednesday 8.1.19. The working of each branch as a part of the whole Department will be considered. The following will attend:- Heads of Branches l.D., 2.D., 3.D., 4.D., and 5.D., Lt.-Colonel Whitham, Captain R.J.Murphy (from C.R). R Brig.-General D/Director-Genera! Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept,A.I.F. 7.1.19.
ssm CONFEREN CE. A Conference will be held in the Office of the Director-General at 3 p.m. tomorrow the 8th inst. AGENDA. The Draft "General Instruction" regard- ing Embarkation Quotas will be discussed. The G.O.C., A.I.F. Depots in U.K. has arranged to be present. The following will attend:- Lt. Col: Somerville (2.D) (3.D.) Lt. Col: Ridley (A.G.B.D) Colonel Davis (Liaison). Lt.Col: Whitham A Brig.-General. 7.1.19 D/Director-General. Repatriation & DemobilisationDept, A.I.F.
3. Inereass under Rank approved Scheme. Lt: General 12/6d. Major-Gen: 7/6d. Brig.-Gen: 7/6d. Colonel. 2/6d. Lt.Colonel Major. 1/6d. Captain 1/6d. Lieuts. SUBSISTENCE ALLOWANCE PER DIEM. Offisers Inoresse on Strength Difference under of the recommended Department Scheme. 12/6d. 25/. 13/6d. 20/- 7/6d. 15/- 7/6d. 10/- 12 51- 51- 21 3/6d. 8/- 3/6d. D. 5/- 8.1.19. Amount pef diem payable at difference of two rates. 12. 6d. 1. 17. 6d. 3. 7. 6d. 3. 0. 0d. 3.13. 6d. 5. 3. 6d. lv.19. 5d.
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[*R Conference Notes 6/1/19.*]

Maj. Gen. McCay

1. Mess proposals Dec 24, approved.-  √

2. Ordnance staff, can't do any more  √

3. Flow of 500 per day.

4.Indiscipline - Gen. Robertson.

5. Call attention to G.I. re A.W.L. on
 embarkation.

6. re Douche.

Tea
Case of Capt B. G. Mathews.-

 

[*RG Agenda Notes*]
6/1/19
Subsistence Allowance
A Muddle
Read Orig. recommendation

Read subsequent cables.

Situation & Result

Gen. Foott's Staff Report.

Not more than £2000 involved.

Could not P.M. settle whole thing forthwith.

May wreck whole scheme

Retrospective to Dec. 1.

Proposal Cable.

My own case & Foott's.-

re Dodds & Millard.

 

Hand drawn diagram -see original

Diagram
Showing Demobilization

Movements

 

[*R  Copies to DDG  Liaison*]
7.1.19.

NOTES OF INTERVIEW WITH PRIME MINISTER AT HAMPSTEAD

 ON JANUARY 5th, 1919.

1. Discussed the anxieties of Australia regarding personnel
arriving other than in organised Units. Explained that it was
impossible to commence shipping organised Units until after the

Depots in England had been cleared, about the beginning of

February. Submitted to Mr. Hughes a draft of cable informing

Australia of the true position. He gave his authority for me

to have this sent.

2. Discussed the question of final embarkation from French

or British ports, or both. Explained my reasons for wishing

to confine embarkation to English ports and stating that G.H.Q.

agreed with me but that the War Office was inclineed to make

difficulties. Mr. Hughes instructed me to draft a letter 

for him to sign which he proposes to send to Lord Milner on this

subject.

3. I explained my general scheme of demobilisation, to which

Mr. Hughes gives a general concurrence.

4. I raised the question of leave from Egypt. Mr. Hughes

says that the Australian Government has definitely committed

itself to the grant of such leave, but he recognises the

difficulties involved as regards shipping and in consequence

the delay to general demobilisation. He instructs me to cable

to Egypt asking how many are likely to avail themselves of leave

and conveying to them that if this privilege is likely to be 

required for considerable numbers, it may be impossible to grant

it owing to shipping difficulties.

5. Subsistence allowance. I explain the fact effect of Defence

Department's last cable as not appreciably improving the position.

Mr. Hughes is sympathetic. I submit draft cable on this subject

for him to send.- He agreed to send it. (and it was in fact sent

the same night with small additions.)

6. Subsistence allowance to men in non-military employment.-

In consequence of Australia agreeing to raise the daily rate from

4/- to 6/- I propose to increase the allowance to non-militarkly

employed personnel, as minimum subsistence from 28/- to 42/-.

Mr. Hughes agreed to this. 

7. Mr. Hughes refers to the memorandum authorising me to

cable without reference to him on matters of detail while he

is away in Paris, and tells me that he proposes to further modify

the memorandum so as to give me still greater freedom.

8. Aerial post. Mr. Hughes states that an aerial post to

Paris is being organised and that I am to make use of it to reach

him rapidly in Paris. 

JM

Lieut.-General.

Director-General.

Repatriation & Demobilisation, A.I.F.

 

[*R  Draft*]

Cables:-

For Senator Pearce from Monash aaa Sincerest thanks appreciation

of your congratulations.

[*Sent by Adminanst   7/1/19

as per ackgmt to ADC from L Wilson*]

 

CHF/FB
CONFERENCE•

A Conference will be held in the Director-General's

Office at 11 a.m. on Wednesday 8.1.19.

The working of each branch as a part of the whole

Department will be considered.

The following will attend:-

Heads of Branches 1.D., 2.D., 3.D., 4.D.,

and 5.D., Lt.-Colonel Whitham, Captain R. J. Murphy (from

C.R).

C H Foott

Brig.-General,

D/Director-General,

Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept, A.I.F.
 7.1.19.

 

CHF/FB.

CONFERENCE.

A Conference will be held in the Office of the

Director-General at 3 p.m. tomorrow the 8th inst.

AGENDA. The Draft "General Instruction" regarding -

Embarkation Quotas will be discussed.

The G.O.C., A.I.F. Depots in U.K. has arranged

to be present.

The following will attend:-

Lt. Col: Somerville (2.D)

Lt. Col: Ridley (3.D.)

Colonel Davis (A.G.B.D)

Lt. Col: Whitham (Liaison).

C H Foott

Brig.-General.

D/Director-General.

Repatriation & DemobilisationDept,

A.I.F.
7.1.19

 

8.1.19.

SUBSISTENCE ALLOWANCE PER DIEM.

Bank Increase
under
approved 
Scheme.		 Increase
under 
recommended
Scheme.		 Difference Officers 
on Strength
of the
Department		 Amount per
diem payable
at difference 
of two rates.
Lt:General

12/6d.

25/-

12/6d.

1

12. 6d.
Major-Gen:

7/6d.

20/-

13/6d.

-

-       -  
Brig.-Gen:}
Colonel    }

7/6d.

15/-

7/6d.

5

1. 17. 6d.
Lt. Colonel

2/6d.

10/-

7/6d.

9

3. 7. 6d.
Major.

-

5/-

5/-   

12

3. 0. 0d.
Captain

1/6d.

5/-

3/6d.

21

3.13. 6d.
Lieuts.

1/6d.

5/-

3/6d.

31

5. 3. 6d.
 

 

 

 

79

£17.19. 6d.
 

[*Index Conference Note   8/1/19*]
CHF/FB.

STAFF CONFERENCE.

11 a.m.  8/1/19.

AGENDA PAPER.

√ (1) Office Instructions.

√ (2) Circular Memoranda.

[*Capt. Murphy*] √ (3) Correspondence Registry.

Detailed Instructions to be issued shortly.

[*Supervision*]     √ (4) Co-ordination of work between Branches and
[*3.D does liaison.*]      between Sections of Branches.

√ (5) Financial Considerations.

√ (6) Hektograph.

√ (7) Cables to Defence Australia

C H Foott

 Brig.-General,

D3/Director-General.

Repatriation & Demobilisation Dept, A.I.F
7.1.19.

 

RDG   Agenda   8/1/19

Notes by General White, on my Demob. Scheme

Para. 1. Underline General demobilization

Para. 2. Why Shd names of Early demobilizers be ruled out?

Para.9. Under line "in Isolation"

Para 12(e).

Para 13. No of NCOs shd be stated.

17. The formula attacht shd now be in train
[*5111*]
1. There is nothing to show the arrangts for
reception & movement on this side - & no

Instns to the body responsible therefore

Nain - Camps - Embkn stats etc
2. I wonder if it wd have been better to lay down an

Estabt for the group? Yes, shall draft a pro forma.

3. It might be wise to suggest to Divns that they shd

draw lots for the rotation of groups.

4. There is nothing here about the direction of actual units

(see however p2 of letter to DCs.)

Part a unit must remain an Entity to the End

(I see this in the letter butI sho go in mstr also)
[*p.t.o.*]

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