Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 6, 10 June - 12 July 1915, Part 6

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15/6/15 Lieut. kear No 1614 PD. Scott (13t /Cl S. Aust. Recognyd by name on parch & other article. Lot sevolve + compas & another man got cawas bay of effects. to be loked for Buried on right sike of Valley, about 10 yos down the bill & about 504 o the lept of Sun left fou ts 13014 L.10
N.1556 C. Hughes 18th M CCR. Neath P.O. (N.S.W. Effects: - Ring humn little figers Paprs (maps put wto a pimall vation bag,
Non- English Words Acturial Wape Toap Woost Moan Purn Cove Wark Tamp Wale Phump Soat Capse Sasp Cupe Stape Dood Stame Drent Stoal Dince Rint Pash Rade Quate Rait Ence Rimp Fand Heng Nate Nale Hime Nope Frend Nute 18/6/15 of Inglish from Nourn Nont Nisp Want Murt Moet Mupe wern Pape oave oal oact orsp Colon And Clep Bilm Bint Blont Kolf Purf Fold
33 Andae Co Fraining Bully Reserve 18 6.15 From OC14tBpA 18 To B. B 4th Inp Bde of ofice bate I beg to report on the efficiency as a fighting unit. Repoits from the Company Commanders are at racked and summarized are as follows of Total strength of Brat present 1757 62) number of original trained men now 408 erving (3) Reinforcements 23 146 445 162 Do ) Original off now servin 13 The percentage of original Br now serving is about 5070. The casualties of officers are very great In CFD Cos only 1officer (trained) remains. Amonget the FCOS the loss has been very pronounced. Promotions have occurred replace wastage, but at present owing to want of facilities in regard this to training militates against much progress being made in this direction. Reinforcements. The majeriae is good but they are robally unfit to take the field in any offensive action Very few have received any training whatever in field operations their discipline is lax, musketry decidety
bad, and in my opinion they are wotally 34 unfited to take the field without the necessary training. Thes can only be acquired by a temporary withdrawal from this Penensula for training purposee. hove Owing to the lors of Penior officers man promoted have not had opportunitees of exercising their commands. This is nost important if the operations of the are to work success fully. battation Inoddams Majo no ofC 1
A Company 18th June 1915 Tota 180 4 9 Strength of Company T6 23 Less Head Quasters 157 54 6 Tetal 31 32 2nd 3r Heinfercement t 34 ith 32 4F5 Original Battalion and 91 76 Keinfercements The training of the 203t reinforcement sas favas drill is concerned is faw but thi have done very little mustet and in field tralning at all. Hhe training of the 1th & 5th reinforcements is oven worsd than that of the 2nd oy tlose who had been in te defect for a longer period hav once onteice dowm at the range but they knowan little about murket and hawe had in field training at alt 84
Head Officere Major Adams Rankine Young Capt. Loughran Kulison Warrant Officere R.S. M. M Cankie S. Deia N 12 T.A. Moore. 1354 J. O. Elliott 10 H.G. Richmond Police 2. the W. Hood Sanilary 59 Corpl. Hamiltonw. Ste Adjutant H. 1671 Beaustoine W. 557 Quarlers Batmen -914 Ruicell C.L. 1252 Graham E.J. AM stores -569 Cpl Davison E.R. 1288 Fle Edwards. S.H. Beasers S. Set Harris te Manders Phillips Freter Signallere t Epl Tolson w. 157 Ple. Austir J.E.
(D a 18 D E 5 B Company 4 B A.S.S Headquarters Rest Gullen 18.6. 1915 From: O.C. B Con 14 BW A.S. & To. Admitant 14t Bed. A.3.3 Herewish report on the Braining of Company as requested Officers Others Godal number as compeiny now slands Tosal Gumber of original trained men ad present in the compana Number of 2 +3 reinforcements atpreset will compuny Humber of 4 & 5 Number of Oriainal Officers additions- Promotions from ranks Bocal Sn Hospital At present with Company Number of Oriainal N.C. O's at present with Company additions- Promotions Reinforcements Sotal there nen are inclined so be slack, I suggest that revised training would be advisable These men have not had she draining of B and the difference in Sheirmilt Leavn is noticeable. then have had lisle or no sraining in field work Same as (D) but have done no mushetin and no field work + in fact their military instruction is pracendly nil. 19 98 36 51
& Gumber of oricinal Officers. Would suggest if possible shal the suainal officers be given a chance of exercision in field work eds what is practically a new company. The officers promosed from she ranks have had no instructions and no practual work in their new duties. The officer in hospical should be returned so dute with a few days Althougl she original P.C.O's in many cases have carried. on she duties of the hicher rank they have had tossle or no sraining in their present rank. Us far as the reinforcement T.C.O's are conceived we have had liktle or no chance to judge then Capebilities, but should think, in cases, then are not up to original standard Sumnary As far as we are concerned we hope additunal leamning may be obtained for all ranks, before military operations continuing AHenry Satam O88 14 B
Ag 172 Headquarters, NEW LEALAYD AND AUSTRALLAN DIVIGION 4 A.S. Bd. Anzac Cove, 19th June 1915. Spare copi CIFCMET ISV For Comanders of Sections of the Detence. The General Officer Commanding is very slad to see in his visits to posts that a marked improvement has taken place lately in the alertness of the men in the trenches, and that, in most posts, superiority of fire has been maintained over th Also, that the eneny’s sniping is now kept down the enemy. to a far greater extent than formerly, The work done in the trenches, and theirrinprovenent, is also, in most cases, satisfactory, but much can still be done in this respect. The following points in particular require attention: 1. -Many iron loopholes are still not in use, and, when used, are not yet properly cevered with sacking, and so put into the parapet as to be screened from the enemy's view. This must be done in all cases, and, when not in use, the loopholes must invariably be plugged. These loopholes, where not required for firing, are most valuable for observation. 2. Pacines are not nearly as much used as they might be? More should be made in all posts; and they should be used for many purposes whereby the use of sandbags might be saved. 74 The pictures in the illustrated papers of the trenches in Fran show that a great deal of revefting in them is done with facin es and gations, which should also be made. 3. Sandbags are scarce, and a great many are used for unnea- cssary purposes. All Commanders of posts must stop this, and must collect all sandbags from any places where they are not required, for use where they are urgently necessary. 4. There are not, as a rule, sufficient machine gung enplacements. Nore must be made, and every maxim gun in use must have at least one, or even two, alternative places from wson to SArO.

18/6/15
Lieut. Kerr
No 1614 R. J. Scott. | 13th| CCo.
(of S. Aust)
——————
Recognised by name on pouch & other
articles.-
Got revolver & compass & another
man got canvas bag of effects. 
(to be looked for
——————
Buried on right side of Valley, about
10 yds down the hill & about 50 yds
to the left of Quinn's left.
3 or 4 of
four together
——————
p.t.o 

 

No1556 C. Hughes. 10th Mt C Co
Neath P.O. (N.S.W.)

Effects:-     Ring from little fingers
                    Papers (maps)
put into a small ration bag.

 

18/6/15
Non-English Words of English form
Ucturial   Wape       Noum
Toap         Woost      Nont
Purn         Whoam   Nisp
Gove         Wark        Mant
Thamp     Wale         Murt
Phump    Soat          Moet
Capse       Sasp         Mupe
Cupe         Stape       Mern
Dood        Stame      Oape
Drent        Stoal        Oave
Dince        Rint         Oal
Pash          Rade       Oast
Quate       Rait          Orsp
Ence         Rimp       Colm
Faind        Nate        Clud
Flug          Nale         Clep
Flime        Nope       Bilm
Prend       Nute        Bint
                                    Blont
                                    Kolf
                                    Purf
                                    Poed

 

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Training 
Anzac Cove
Reserve Gully
18.6.15

From O/C 14th Bn: AIF
To B.M. 4th Inf Bde.
I beg to report on the efficiency of this battalion
as a fighting unit.
Reports from the Company Commanders are attached,
and summarized are as follows:-
(1) Total strength of Bn at present :- 757
(2) Number of original trained
men now serving                                  408
(3) Reinforcements 2 & 3                      146
(4)            do                4 & 5                     162
(5) Original off now serving                    13
The percentage of original Bn now serving is
about 50%.
The casualties of officers are very great,
In C & D Cos only 1 officer (trained) remains.
Amongst the NCOs the loss has been very
pronounced.  Promotions have occurred
to replace wastage, but at present
owing to want of facilities in regard
to training this militates against much
progress being made in this direction.
Reinforcements. The material is good
but, they are totally unfit to take
the field in any offensive action.
Very few have received any training
whatever in field operations, their
discipline is lax, musketry decidedly

 

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bad, and in my opinion they are totally
unfitted to take the field without the
necessary training.  This can only be
acquired by a temporary withdrawal from
this Peninsula for training purposes.
Owing to the loss of Senior officers many those
promoted have not had opportunities of
exercising their commands. This is
most important if the operations of the
battalion are to work successfully.

Jno Adams Major
O/C 14th Bn.

 

"A" Company 18th June 1915

  Officers W.Officers S.Sergts Sergts Act.
Sergts
Corpls. Lc Cpls
&
Ptes
Total
Strength of Company 9 1 3 6 4 8 149 180
Less Head Quarters 5 1 3 - 1 3 10 23
Total 4 - - 6 3 5 139 157
2nd & 3rd Reinforcements}  - - - 1 - - 31 32
4th & 5th "            } - - - - - 2 32 34
Original Battalion and
1st Reinforcements }
4 - - 5 3 76 91  

The training of the 2 & 3rd reinforcements as
far as drill is concerned is fair but they
have done very little musketry and
no field training at all.
The training of the 4th & 5th reinforcements
is even worse that that of the 2nd & 3rd.
Those who had been in the depot for
a longer period have xxxx been once or twice
down at the range but they know very
little about musketry and have had 
no field training at all.

CM Clark
Capt
OC A.Co.

 

Head Quarters

Officers  
Major Adams Batmen
"          Rankine  914 Russell C.L.
"          Young 1252 Graham E.J.
Capt. Loughran  
 "         Gillison Q M Stores
Warrant Officers 569 Cpl Davison E.R.
  1288 Pte. Edwards. S.H.
R.S.M. McCankie  
   
S.Sergts S. Bearers
No 12 T.A.Moore. Sgt Harris
1354 J.O. Elliott. Pte Mauders
10 H.G. Richmond   "     Phillips
     "     Fraser
   
Police Signallers
72 Pte. W Hood 6 Cpl Tolson W
  157 Pte Austin J.E.
Sanitary  
594 Corpl. Hamilton W.  
1677 Pte Adjutant H.  
557     "   Beaudoine W.  
 

B Company
14th Bttn A.I F
Headquarters
Red Gully
18.6.1915
From:- O.C B Coy 14th Battn A I F
To:-        Adjutant 14th Battn A I F

Herewith report on the training
of Company as requested

    Officers 6
(A) Total number as Company now stands Others 185
     
    Total 191
(B) Number of original trained men at
present in the company
  98
(C) Number of 2nd & 3rd reinforcements at present with company   36
(D) Number of 4th & 5th       "             "                     "             "            "   51
(E) Number of Original Officers   3
  additions - Promotions from ranks   3
     
    Total 6
  In Hospital   1
     
  At present with Company   5
     
(A) Number of Original N.C.O's at present with Company   7
  Additions - Promotions   3
  Reinforcements   6
     
  Total   16

(B) These men are inclined to be slack, I suggest that
some revised training would be advisable

(C) These men have not had the training of 'B' and
the difference in their military training work is noticeable.
They have little or no training in field work.

(D) Same as (C) but have done no musketry and
no field work & in fact their military instruction
is practically nil.

 

(E) Number of original Officers. Would suggest if possible that
the original officers be given a chance of exercising
in field work etc what is practically a new company.
The officers promoted from the ranks have had
no instructions and no practical work in their new
duties. The officer in hospital should be returned
to duty within a few days

(F) Although the original N.C.O's in many cases
have carried on the duties of the higher rank, they
had little or no training in their present
rank.
As far as the reinforcement N.C.O's are concerned
we have had little or no chance to judge their
capabilities, but should think, in cases, they are
not up to original standard

Summary
As far as we are concerned, we hope additional
training may be obtained for all ranks, before
continuing military operations

A Henry Captain
O.C.
B Coy
14 Bttn.

 

NZG 172
"4"  A.I. Bde
(spare copies)
Headquarters,

NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
Anzac Cove, 19th June 1915.
Circular memorandum

For Commanders of Sections of the Defence.
The General Officer Commanding is very glad to see in
his visits to posts that a marked improvement has taken place
lately in the alertness of the men in the trenches, and that,
in most posts, superiority of fire has been maintained over th
the enemy.  Also, that the enemy's sniping is now kept down
to a far greater extent than formerly.
The work done in the trenches, and their improvement,
is also, in most cases, satisfactory, but much can still be
done in this respect.
The following points in particular require attention:-
1. Many iron loopholes are still not in use, and, when used,
are not yet properly covered with sacking, and so put into the
parapet as to be screened from the enemy's view. This must
be done in all cases, and, when not in use, the loopholes
must invariably be plugged.
These loopholes, where not required for firing, are most
valuable for observation.
2. Facines are not nearly as much used as they might be?
More should be made in all posts, and they should be used for
many purposes whereby the use of sandbags might be saved . Th
The pictures in the illustrated papers of the trenches in Fran
show that a great deal of reverting in them is done with facines
and gabions, which should also be made.
3. Sandbags are scarce, and a great many are used for unnecessary
purposes. All Commanders of posts must stop this, and
must collect all sandbags from any places where they are not
required, for use where they are urgently necessary.
4. There are not, as a rule, sufficient machine guns
emplacements. More must be made, and every maxim gun in use
must have at least one, or even two, alternative places from
which to fire.

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