Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 5, 16 May - 25 May 1915, Part 7

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Ar Form. Army Form C. 2121. MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message. Words CAITE Prefix Code Recd. At M. This message is on a/c of: Ofice of Orifin & Service Instructions Sent. Date service At From To. By CITSMEN- FISSN, OCS B 70 nt on FSealetsHiner D Of Mon AAA 1 ^ tir o hoag afe tons (21 t b at the Fene against & proy ep mnven n Lieut. St cocy oet 1tt a 4 Mnm An de 14 the G.0. C. d orgeed cond tals wene e n n e en e that huntely s tt i ous withyf son might today ou bee te you pa aeenecae nn f nen n nt say I graye fo gent ad rand anduennd ncednu i ond you will sead my spcia an whs somof thang wrlf is prgrosing ananedine Pheang a a scal imp Eoanman 3 Eckno ladge receipt 1 What meatr not 2 21/5/16 4 A Seation From nn Place Time The above may be forwarded as now corrected. 2 mumim Signature of Addresser or person authoried to telestaph in his name. CANSOI This line should be crased if not required.
Ar Form. Army Form C. 2121. No. of Message. MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Wordo Charge Prefx Code. in Recd. at 1. This message is on a/c of: Office of Origin & Service Instructions. Sent. Date. Service. I. At From To. By m By (Signature of Franking Officer 1 Ian ene e e n entenene oncde 2 Ar. T0 concuminumnt nindon D cmmnuin in reply to Number. Day of Month. AAA 13 May 2 56/15 o B. M. 15 20 MaLR fout sder from aphan and u mnm nnun ma recomnvt y mad t fm the tis to oe i m in nd hevea son 4A t entmmor mmmmmn mm 1 to cande H. B b t sudenn we 2 mmin d 5 e a e nmen inund rmntg umom iu aenen f te e n en e en comemmnm ammengun aenene na ente amne ntemnnein mom M in din rmgn Ft1Ste From i Place MONASH E7 Time 25 The above may be forwarded as now corrected. 2) ^ Thubmash Signature of Addressor or person authorized to telegraph in his name. Censor This line should be erased if not required.
A0. 1 CORS PrONO. O. Evay Bastar 2 C.ReL. M.DD Mrisions Ne the Atillary Hiring Last Mest, Mie Dattary Hred ase rounds at Fy Hre, Fres H Eeeends is & seonds, with obeadonal bursts of our fire and eveeging. Targst over OULYNS POST, Bearing 78 des. to 84 dec. and a fer rounds onnxrr bearings 72 deg. and 74 des. 3 series were Hireds- a) from 7.40 p.m. to 8,10 pom, starting at 1400, jure 3.8, angle of sisht 3 dec. 15 min. Elevation, and finishing as 1100. Juse 3.3. angle of right 3 deg. i5 min.Elevation. D) from 16.46 p.M. to 11,35 p.m. starting at 1400, jure 3.T.anale of sight 3 4e.-25 min.finishing at 1100, Juse 3.4, angle of sight 3 des. 16 min Mevation. o) from 2 a.m. to 2.30 some started and finished as in (D). in (D) the and.Battery was the only battery firing, lsving for line and clerstion, int suse serting ontraerdinrily soot. (0) a (o) Series op rently gave the Infantry satisfaction, as they reported & your rounds are bursting just there wanted) and later your rounds are bursting on Tront Turkish trenches. The whele sone registered was checked during the day for Range, ruse, and Angle of Sight on eight tareets. Results arrived at were, for OULWNS POST- Day firing, Range 876, Fuse 3.1. Ancle of sight 3.5 on right to 3 dec. 15 min-on leftf. Night firing (alloving considerable margin for safety) Rarge 11CC, Fuse 3.3 angle of sight the same. I shall be sied if Cok. A. Aray Corps could also be netified of the above. Csqualties - Wil. though under S sholl Hire at tincs. 226 4:1 (E0d.) P.B.Sykes, Major, R.A.. 246118. Conending 2nd. Buttery, N..Fehe
49 A84O FYGITGNOE SEATE So a Te M In vicy of the importance of securing Turkin prisoners, both Military and civilian, for the purposes of the Intelligence Staff, it is desirable taa, whenever possible, the surrender of such perons should be accepted. Experience in other fields of the war askinet Farntn Turkey has shown that many Turkish soldiers are serving under compulston and are anxious to give thenselves up at the first opportunity. From these men information of great military value has often been obtained. Consequently, where such a course does not expose our om nen to any anger, facilities should be siven for as, as possibie. many surrenders THarthhy Turkit soldiers as a rule manifest their dearre to surrender by holding their rifles butt upwards and by waving cloths or rags of any colour. An actual white flag should be regarded with the utmost suspicion as a Turkiah soldier is un- likely to possess anything of that colour. The following phrases, to be shouted to those apparently decirous of giving thenselves up, vill assist our officers and men to accept a BONA FILE surrender without exposing them. selves to any unnecessary danger. T IN D CASE SHOULD OUR TROOPS LEAVE THEIR POSITIONS OR COYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING PRISONERS OF THIS THE. So TESLHOL BINOTLAN) TESSLIN CMNTE TOU WLL DE WALL TREATE SIRF HI BALLLASN THROW DOM FOUR ARUS SILLARLARENELE IAK THROY DOM TOTR RITLE TUTETINT ASRATL THROW DOWN TOUR SNORD KMECH VE REYOLVER ASHAYA HOL AND REVOLVER HOLD UF TOUR RANDS ELERINIZI IKARI KOI RIGER THAN THAT Dans ToKARE AOVANCE SLOWLI LAWASH GML (in piural) CELINIE ONE BY ONE MR MR HALT DOUR ANNMTION ASKER HALER OL MANH NAREH COME OVLR THIS WE BY TARATA SI WALK TO THE LEPT SoLA TUEN WALK TO THE RIGRT SACRA IUTH. OC pt B Pleare E Tetrn to Boedto Joneghwl sro 2w copied & retd HDavisS 0.E. 16 2/5/16 dite. cous & Ra avoshard
21 Army Form C. 2121 No. of Message— MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. PrCHK Code— M. /Words/ Chare This Message to on ac of. Reed at Office of origin & Service instructions From (Stenature of Frankin Officer)/ By. 13th Nr SeatSK DaY Of Modi. - I4/2 has bict Terranged with concuprence the the + 18th BD that the C.O.C noftice is further tell take its share to full the garrione of of UGUINNS POSRUAAA In pursuance Bn the of this the portion major find I will garrison this the day. tthir from 1 pm post till 23 4 on int for AAR Plase arrange including due men profortion 350 report of Offese F.N.C.OS to FrOM Place Time The above may be forwarded as now correcied. CCnSOT. Senatured Addresser or Person anthorined to telegraph ihis Rame This fine should be crased if not required. Army Form C. 212 A Form. No. of Message MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Code m./ Words/ Chare PIChE This Message is on ac of: Reed at MeAANNSSMMEEESM Service. From (Stenature of Frankin Oficer/ By SetSN Da Of Moni AAR Ipm POST at OUINNS at this day officer an sharp and preceding the party Cannan R.Col to reporting at representative hes pM AAA at 12.45 the post garrison the of The balance hours 48 for the next squadion comprise I will a 1st Light Sperae SAA of acknowledge BDE 4 INF FrON VALLE) Prace MINASH Time G7m 1 The above may be forwarded as now correcied. WIM tuche Wext. Stenaunto adgesso or Jetand i Moterd W nad Censor. This fine should be erased if r
A Form. Ara Form C. 2121. No. of Mossage MESSACES AND SIANALS Mot Cre Rood at Prease ts on a o TAEAOMENMN SMEISNN sen Service o CA. PIIORLE T0 In Bde Sector aHite SAASON TrNYHM AAA 50 message reference POST at ganiseing AUINNS with 21st inst. me acknowledged hereby 1 14 From BHITALION Pace Time 9 Ar The above may be forwarded ad now corrected I Conor ad or r to . . This line should be crased if not required. O S.B. LEd. WI. WIss-50,000. O/e Form Ono.
Or Tom COrtena LAYTONDD MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Na. Ol Mowaso 3O Oaco stme Recetred bont, or mbont Norto Coda Prefr Pro Charges to collect SMN AMttone N. Received Handed in at 5 STAINONK TIONYWSSNN AAA The at are Tuus which the ting present ow tho Sstim taw be Valley from right the seen Magnitic lousthery Sost AA A dearees hange to hearing 725 2000 unter RANKIN Mon 1795 PLACEATIME W Din rowtin line shguld be erased I not required. WM MORd SIL ARLt-FormUNI
O To DSOS LAFONCR 21 MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Nao Meaa 29 4 Charges to Pay. Office Stamp 245113 pr Rurttes Ttttcton Handed in at ca 4 4002 DoE SMESSTENN 229/1296 BIONGWSSNSS aaa BN27 1 the thet trigade In event 6 am 4 rtion reguired king reinforce you will Convenient send You t meet ourt troops put Divisior t to G e the mrace where they are requied Fnom NI INE 80E PLAOESTIME ETERUE 254/2 706E oPad S A.A.MTo
Cmne lor 4 Enq. Bde 20p. 21. 5. 15 Reprence your message 2.25p. officer and men on joe have orders to knox of at 5.30 pm. work has progrosed to some expents but it will not be complete by any means by 5.30 p Lunt SMelsey was not aware that party was being detailed. He has seen the ofices in charge of party and expeared to him what is required. can the tour of procnt part be rtended or pess party sent to relieve it at 530 pm please. t1 4.o 21.5 1r ArForm. Army Form C. 2121 No. of Message— MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. PrCI Code m./ Worde] CharTS Te Hae D OAASS. / Reck at ThesEAittS SirtHttns Service. From IStenature of Trankin Oticer7/ By. 0PE I7 COl Post ACWNC CoOUINS ✓ SenteSKEN in reply to Number. Day of Month. AAA Kif. message 4 pm there your of moust no question be working party crasing 530 pm give onders work must continue til work AAR to too dark lan must you Nor Lt. Shelsey more Her than technicall. advice the enecy responsibility of the tinds the work on specified in my message (2.25 pm) reting upon. you FOM NE3 Septeon H Pace MONASH IVALLEV. Time 4.15Pm The above may be forwarded as now correcied. M. hocke trient Censor. Signature of Addessor or person authorized to telegraph in his name. This fine should be erased if not required.
X C Po 5 21 21.5.15 H.Q. q dy. Brigadl I have personally seen Lient Harrs and the working part on the trencer leading from one right of tis position- I found du party working to the right of the flag which indicates are left of COURTNEYS POST. which portion of trench is already in order I pointed out to J. Harris the portion of trench which obviously requires attention. Viz from the flag mentioned above to the left for about 60 yards to the junction of first support French. Lent Harris is fully aware of the position and will press on with the work - taking it in the precesense named in your order. If te work is not fully completed 4 by nightfull as ordered at would be acvisable t put the same working part on to it tomorrow- as owing to the narrowness of a truch, it is work of which the Fnach takes a little time to acquire. Hop ye 6.0 pen YoC. Au Co

(d) to raise back parapet in a few low places to
protect the trench against reverse fire.
Lieut. Skelsey will cooperate, with advice, if required.
The G.O.C. directs that no step will be omitted to absolutely
ensure that this work shall be completed by
nightfall today. - You are therefore to give this
whole matter your urgent personal attention,
& you will send me special reports in writing
at 4 pm & 6 p.m & 8 p.m to state how
this work is progressing
Please report this as of special importance
Acknowledge receipt
John Monash
Col.
for C.O. No.3 Section
21/5/15    2.25 p.m.
 

 

N Z. Inf. Brigade
B. M. 153                           May 21st/15           B. M 279
Captain Morrison and four guides from
your Brigade have already reconnoitered
the road from your Bivouac to this H.Q.
and know the way. AAA Nevertheless a
guide will be sent to Div H.Q. to guide
you here in event of your having to
reinforce us.

4th Inf. Bde

MONASH VALLEY

3.25
JohnMonash
 

 

[* 4th. I.B. *]
COPY
[*21*]
From  O. C., 2nd. Battery 
To   C.R.A., N. Z. Division.
Re the Artillery firing last night, this Battery fired 480 rounds at
Battery fire, from 30 seconds to 5 seconds, with occasional bursts of
gun fire and sweeping.
Target over QUINN'S POST, Bearing 78 deg. to 84 deg. and a few rounds
onxxxx bearings 72 deg. and 74 deg.    3 series were fired:-
a) from 7.40 p.m. to 8.10 p.m.,starting at 1200, fuze 3.9, angle
of sight 3 deg. 15 min.  Elevation, and finishing at 1100,
fuze 3.3, angle of sight 3 deg. 15 min.Elevation.
b) from 10.40 p.m. to 11.35 p.m. starting at 1200. fuze 3.7. angle
of sight 3 deg. 25 min. finishing at 1100. fuze 3.4. angle of
sight 3 deg. 10 min Elevation.
c) from 2 a.m. to 2.30 a.m.  started and finished  as in (b).
[*JM*] (b) the 2nd. Battery was the only battery firing, laying for line
and elevation, and fuze setting extraordinarily good.
(b) & (c) Series apparently gave the Infantry satisfaction, as they
reported "your rounds are bursting just where wanted" and later
"your rounds are bursting on front Turkish trenches".
The whole zone registered was checked during the day for Range, Fuze.
and Angle of Sight on eight targets.  Results arrived at were, for
QUINN'S POST:-
Day firing, Range 975, Fuze 3.1. Angle of sight 3.5 on right to
3 deg. 15 min. on leftt.
Night firing (allowing considerable margin for safety) Range
1100, Fuze 3.3 angle of sight the same.
I shall be glad if C.R.A. Army Corps could also be notified of the
above. Casualties - Nil. though under xxxx ∧heavy shell fire at times.
224 H 1
21/5/15.
(Sgd.) F.B. Sykes, Major, R.A.,
Commanding 2nd. Battery, N.Z.F.A.
[*JM*]

 

 

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AGA G INTELLIGENCE STAFF

SURRENDER OF TURKISH TROOPS

In view of the importance of securing Turkish prisoners,
both Military and civilian, for purpose of the Intelligence
Staff, it is desirable that, whenever possible, the surrender of
such perons should be accepted.
Experience in other fields of the war against Turkin Turkey
has shown that many Turkish soldiers are serving under compulsion
and are anxious to give themselves up at the first opportunity.
From these men information of great military value has often been
obtained. Consequently, where such a course does not expose our
own men to any dan ger, facilities should be given for as ∧many surrenders xxx
as possible.
TTurkkxx Turkis soldiers as a rule manifest their desire
to surrender by holding their rifles butt upwards and by waving
cloths or rags of any colour. An actual white flag should be
regarded with the utmost suspicion as a Turkish soldier is unlikely
to possess anything of that colour.
The following phrases, to be shouted to those apparently
desirous of giving themselves up, will assist our officers and
men to accept a BONA FIDE surrender without exposing themselves
to any unnecessary danger.
XXXXXXX
IN NO CASE SHOULD OUR TROOPS LEAVE THEIR POSITIONS OR
COVER FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING PRISONERS OF THIS TYPE.

SURRENDER                                        TESSLIM OL (SINGULAR) TESSLIM OLUNUZ
YOU WILL BE WELL TREATED            SIZĖ EYI BAKILAJAK
THROW DOWN YOUR ARMS              SILLAHLARENEZE BRAK
THROW DOWN YOUR RIFLES            TUFEYINI ASHAYA
THROW DOWN YOUR SWORD           KELECH VE REVOLVER  ASHAYA KOI
AND REVOLVER                                         
HOLD UP YOUR HANDS                      ELERINIZI YUKARI KOI
HIGHER THAN THAT                            DAHA YUKARI
ADVANCE SLOWLY                              YAWASH GEL (in plural)  GELINIZ
ONE BY ONE                                         BIR BIR HALT DOUR
ATTENTION                                           ASKER HAZER OL MARCH   MARSH
COME OVER THIS WAY                       BOU TARAFA GHEL
WALK TO THE LEFT                             SOLA YURU
WALK TO THE RIGHT                           SAGHA YURU.
[*Urgent OC 13th Bn Please copy & return to Bde H.Q.  JPMcG Lt Col BM 2/5/158*]
[*Copied & retd AWDavis Sgt 21/5/15*]
[*Urgent O.C. 16th ditto Copied & Rtn GWOrchard*]
 

 

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C O 13th Bn
[* information*]
It [[?]] has been arranged with
the concurrence of the
G.O.C. that the 13th Bn
is till further notice
to take its full share
of the garrisoning of
QUINNS POST AAA In pursuance
of this, the 13th Bn
will find the major portion
of the garrison of this
post from 1 pm this day
(21st) till 1 pm on 23rd
inst. AAA Please arrange for
350 men including due proportion
of officers & NCOs to report
 

 

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at QUINNS POST at 1 pm
sharp this day an officer
preceding the party and
reporting to Lt.Col Cannan
or his representative at
the post at 12.45 pm AAA
The balance of the garrison
for the next 48 hours
will comprise a squadron
of 1st Light Horse AAA
Acknowledge
4th INF BDE

MONASH VALLEY

9 pm.
W J M Locke Lieut        
Orderly officer
 

 

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44

4th Inf Bde

Message reference 13th Bn
garrisoning QUINNS POST at
1 pm 21 st inst. with
350 men hereby acknowledged
JM
21/5/1513TH BATTALION.
Place 
Time  9.5  x a.m.
 

 

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21/5
45
1.30

4th Bde
1

The Guns which are at
present shooting down the
valley can be distinctly
seen from the right of
Courtney Post AAA Magnetic
bearing 10 degrees Range
under 2000 yds
JM

MAJ. RANKIN
Courtney's Post 1/25 pm
 

 

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SM

29

XQW [[?Nrs?]]
21/5/15

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3.3 pm
O C 4 AUST BDE
BM 279                            21st 
In the xxx event of this brigade
or any portion of it
being required to reinforce
you will it be convenient
for you to send a
guide to meet our troops
outside Divisional H. Qrs to
guide them to the place
where they are required
39
Replied to by 
BM  JM
BM 153
group
JP McGlinn
21
NZ INF BDE
RESERVE GULLY 2.55 pm
 

 

QUINNS POST.  48
4th Inf. Bde.  
4.0 pm. 21.5.15
Reference your message 2.25 pm.
officer and men on job have orders to
knock off at 5.30 pm. work has
progressed to some extent - but it
will not be complete by any means
by 5.30 pm.
Lieut Skelsey was not aware
that party was being detailed. He
has seen the officer in charge of
party and explained to him what
is required.
Can the tour of present party
be extended or fresh party sent
to relieve it at 5.30 pm please.
H Pope
Lt.Col
4.0 pm 21.5.15
 

 

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LT COL POPE
ACTING C O QUINNS POST
Ref. your message 4 pm there
must be no question of
working party ceasing at
5.30 pm Give orders that
work must continue till
too dark to work AAA
Nor must you lean on
Lt. Skelsey for more than
technical advice the
responsibility of executing
the work on the lines
specified in my message (2.25pm)
resting upon you
No 3 Section H.Q.
MONASH VALLEY
4.15 pm
W.J.M. Locke Lieut.    
 

 

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QUINNS POST  50
21.5.15
H.Q. 4th Inf. Brigade

I have personally seen
Lieut Harris and the working party
on the trench leading from the
right of this position -
I found the party working to the
right of the flag which indicates
the left of COURTNEY'S POST. which
portion of trench is already in
order.
I pointed out to Lt Harris the
portion of trench which obviously
requires attention. viz. from the
flag mentioned above to the left
for about 60 yards to the junction
of first support trench.
Lieut. Harris is fully aware of
the position and will press on
with the work - taking it in the
precedence named in your order.
If the work is not fully completed
 

 

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by nightfall as ordered it
would be advisable to put
the same working party on
to it tomorrow - as, owing to
the narrowness of the trench,
it is work of which the
"knack" takes a little time
to acquire.
HPope
Lt.Col
a/O.C. Quinns Post
6.0 pm

 

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