Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 5, 16 May - 25 May 1915, Part 3

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First World War, 1914–18
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Ar 2o a Complimontary. 1 C0 R PS ORD E R. A211 F " S P E C 1 A L & Headquartors, Anzec Covo. 18th May, 1915. The C.O.C., has much pleasure in publishing the Tolloing lettor from the Roar Admiral, Commanding No LL Squadron, written on his doparture with some of his ships to another area of operations:- H.H.S.OUEER, 18/5/25. My dear Gonoral, It is with the groatost rogrot that 1 Find I have to leavo you before we are able to bring our combined operations to a successful conclusion. on bohalf of mysolf, my Officers and mon I wish to thank you and tho Army Corps under your Command for the loyal and ungrudging manner in which you havo worked with us, making our task oasy. To aro all full of admiration for the gallantry and daring of your Troops. The dashing way in which you took your present position will bocome historic, and wo all hope that your furthor advance will not be long delayed. Although no longor able to work with you we shall Tollow your progress with the groatest intorost and wish you e short and succoosful campaign and the victory you so thoroughly doserve. Till you please convey to all ranks the honour we foe) in having boon allowed to co-oporate with the Australian and Now Zoaland Army Corps and the regrot with which wo loavo them. with my vory bost wishes, Yours vory sincoroly, (Sed) C.F.THURSBY. T.B.LESSLIE, Lt-ColoneL, A.A. C. C.HoGo
Complimontary. CO R PS O R D E R. A 2 1i V " S P E C 1 A L & Headquertors. Anzec Covo. 18th May, 1915. The G.O.C., has much pleasure in publishing tho Tollowing lettor from the Roar Admiral, Commanding No LL Squadron, written on his doparture with some of his ships to another area of operations:- H.M.S.OUTEEN, 18/5/25. My dear Gonoral, It is with the groatost rogrot that 1 Find I have to leavo you before we are able to bring our combined operations to a successful conclusion. On bohelf of myself, my Officers and mon I wish to thank you and tho Army Corps under your Command for the loyal and ungrudging manner in which you havo worked with us, making our task oasy. To aro all full of admiration for the gallantry and daring of your Troops. The dashing way in which you took your present position will bocome historic, and to all hope that your further advance will not be long delayed. Although no longor able to work with you we shall Follow your progress with the groatest intorost and wish you e short and succoosful campaign and t victory you so thoroughly doserve. Till you please convey to all ranks the honour we foe) in having boon allowed to co-operate with the Australian and Now Zoaland Army Corps and the regret with which wo loavo them. With my vory bost wishes, jours vory sincorcly, (S9d) C.F.THURSBT. W.B.LESSLIE, Lt-Colonel, A.A. C. CoHoGo
RALD HAMILION CABIE REGRETATH General W. T. Bridres t e mand of in Ounded TES OTR. N.L. moT 1 lated Tenodos, M. Limisier For Dolence Mon Mr W 1rm Him. HoHvery EM woaA oceratats 111 ore armens rran 4 10 TAF A 0 1BE or Cenn
Dear Mr Glynn Have managed to find a copy of red book. List as follows 1. Cl. McCay 3436.12.04 2 Hughes 6.1207 Burston 1.4. O 4 5 Holme 1.11 6h Chanvel 9.3.13 Monash 1:7 Hobb. 17.15 Sellherm 7.13 10 Linton 8.7.1 egge 1 Y LaBlamey
Dear McGlynn there is no CME List neaven than egrpt. If it is of anyy momen I would suggest your writng 5 Cl Sellkerm I am not quite sure of Col Turston bnt believe he commanded the Victorian Bnd Bde in succession to or Robertson with full rank I am not sure of the order of the three on 1 13 I know ol Sellheim was senior to ColLegge But English newspapers
say that General Legge left Australia on 14 May so if i probable that he ha been promoted on the CM.F. The complete dates given are all correct Yours truly EaBlamey
"Having been informed that the Commonwealth Government has nominated Colonel Ligge to the command of the Frrst. Anstralian Drin sion, & has promoted him to higher rank in the H Hee Anstralian Imperial Firce, I respectfully request that the following representation may be transmitted to the proper authority:- his the time being I. Altho in so fad as there is no unneiate prospect of my coming under I am not in this niat the command of the G.D.C. 1st Andr Dursion, such a position Maiin immediately affected by this approintment, yet I am very semusly prepudiced thereby in the matter of semority, both in the H.P.P. & on the Commonwealth forces some of they serior to me 2. In common with a number of other officers of the rank of Colonel, now serving with the Meditionancan Expeditionary Force, I am servior in rank to this officer have had many years longer tobal service, & have commanded a Brigade both in pleace & war; & I am as much involved as they in being thrn passed over & having to bear the stigiia & the reflection that in spite of these services I am promotion of in common with them considered to be unfitted for or undesswving of advancement in priority of a poros officer who han no previous experience whatever in the com. mand of any fornation baoges them a Company elthes in peace or in Wai. 3. It is submitted that this action is most inmonal, if not wholely without precedent, is opposed to the usage of the servras, & is comjust to offices who have made great sucrifices & have borne the heat & burden of the day. - As we are serving under the Iprial Army Aat it is submitted that this is a matter hn which an appeal to Impedial Authority can properly be sought, to the end of litte restoring the states gue of the forfeited seniarity. &. I desire to add that this request is entirely imprsonal, & is based on a question of principle onty.-
lyt th th 17/5/2 Kantin Killed Fethers Lery Newham, Saker Mnys Clement Fermge Petund. Fockagh, Wdotah Douded Caper, Elde, Lemsiste, Stewart, Selmone, Ros, Mr. Ven Phithps Mange, Mron, Socy St Adams, Dili Agurt Major Henneft, Capt Comyors JMe Sdf
TC FoM BuSlon L SON SSN MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Na of Mossase CAAPEWPE JACSSES a 15/11 EATESMAE es 17E Handed in at Brigade Major 110 Jufty Bde Sondere Mnner Day of Month DENGEONSNN 224 Eighkenth te 15th Br was in occupation of Qunis Post since 12 noon on 17& less headquarters and 60 men who were recting in momack, ther were also 60 sue 713 Ba ag reserve, During the night of 19440 the evening appeare very actibe saewing light & throwing bourts into the fully on the left of the posspion. Then also th threw a milher of bourds and andoue a heavy rifle fire at hatwal turing the night. All rodal the enemy soe been very quiet with the exception of some heavy shell fine. The min r the post have been acanied in shill improving the trencher of the fiost FRoM HKbarter Major PLAORA TMMT MsOct 4.10E2. Wa Da Ped Si A B. Lld-Fern2.
Ar Form. Army Form C. 2121. MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. A Menar Nor CaRe Prefir Recd. at This message is on alc of: Oe AGH SEME MS SOE Date Service. From SEMSATETI- FTMITE OMACOTT T0 FSSEANN Do ANonE tnet totnte AAA C.O. Qunn's post. Please left me know of you afe matking arrangements to refive the Cpmen of 1/3th Bn, with you, at 12 nown today? The 15th pattation will be refuved from Qunnis past at 11 a mn tomorrow Wednestay 19th by the 16/h Nattalion (len H.Q details) 60 men o 13th Battalion Dtruhon l 9 4th A. 7 tae 18/8/13 From Place Time I The aove my be forwarded as now corceced. 2 10 SAANAORUan Or M MIAWWRTNNNNIMLE CoNOT This line should be crased if not required.

ARMY CORPS ORDER.

*SPECIAL*
*

Headquarters,
Anzac Cove,
18th May, 1915.

Complimentary. The G.O.C., has much pleasure in publishing the
following letter from the Rear Admiral, Commanding
No II Squadron, written on his departure with some
of his ships to another area of operations:-
"H.M.S QUEEN,
18/5/15.
"My dear General,
It is with the greatest regret that
I find I have to leave you before we are able to
bring our combined operations to a successful
conclusion.
"On behalf of myself, my Officers and men I wish to
thank you and the Army Corps under your Command
for the loyal and ungrudging manner in which you
have worked with us, making our task easy.
"We are all full of admiration for the gallantry and
daring of your Troops. The dashing way in which you
took your present position will become historic, and
we all hope that your further advance will not be
long delayed.
"Although no longer able to work with you we shall
follow your progress with the greatest interest and
wish you a short and successful campaign and the
victory you so thoroughly deserve.
"Will you please convey to all ranks the honour we feel
in having been allowed to co-operate with the
Australian and New Zealand Army Corps and the regret
with which we leave them.
"With my very best wishes,
Yours very sincerely,
(Sgd) C.F.THURSBY.

W.B.LESSLIE,
Lt-Colonel,
A.A. & Q.M.G

[*Brigadier*]
[*Personal Copy*]
[*JRMcG Lieut Colonel,
BRIGADE MAJOR, 4TH INF. BRIGADE,
AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE.
20 MAY 1915

 

ARMY CORPS ORDER.

*SPECIAL*
*

Headquarters,
Anzac Cove,
18th May, 1915.


Complimentary. The G.O.C., has much pleasure in publishing the
following letter from the Rear Admiral, Commanding
No II Squadron, written on his departure with some
of his ships to another area of operations:-
"H.M.S QUEEN,
18/5/15.
"My dear General,
It is with the greatest regret that
I find I have to leave you before we are able to
bring our combined operations to a successful
conclusion.
"On behalf of myself, my Officers and men I wish to
thank you and the Army Corps under your Command
for the loyal and ungrudging manner in which you
have worked with us, making our task easy.
"We are all full of admiration for the gallantry and
daring of your Troops. The dashing way in which you
took your present position will become historic, and
we all hope that your further advance will not be
long delayed.
"Although no longer able to work with you we shall
follow your progress with the greatest interest and
wish you a short and successful campaign and the
victory you so thoroughly deserve.
"Will you please convey to all ranks the honour we feel
in having been allowed to co-operate with the
Australian and New Zealand Army Corps and the regret
with which we leave them.
"With my very best wishes,
Yours very sincerely,
(Sgd) C.F.THURSBY.

W.B.LESSLIE,
Lt-ColoneL,
A.A. & Q.M.G.

 

[*18/5/15*]
THE HERALD
AUSTRALIA'S LEADER
SERIOUSLY WOUNDED
GENERAL HAMILTON CABLES
REGRET AT LOSING COMRADE
Major-General W.T. Bridges, who
on August 15 was appointed to the
command of the Australian Expeditionary
Force, has been seriously
wounded. This news was contained in
MJR-GEN W.T. BRIDGES  C.M.G.

a cable message received by the
Governor-General from Sir Ian Hamilton,
dated Tenedos, May 17.  Copies of
this cable message were today issued
by the Minister for Defence. The text
is as follows:-
"Deeply regret announce General
Bridges wounded yesterday. I
have seen him. He is very cheery,
but his wound is certainly serious."
EXCELLENT RECORD
SOUTH AFRICAN VETERAN
Major-General William Throsby
Bridges was next in command to
General Sir William H. Birdwood. He
was born in Greenock, Scotland, in
1861, being a son of Captain W.W.S.
Bridges, of the Royal Navy, and was
married in 1885 to Miss Edith Lillian
Francis.
Having received his education in
Canada, he came to Australia and
subsequent to practising as a surveyor
in New South Wales, he embarked on
a military career and served with
the Commonwealth forces in South
Africa in 1899-1900, being awarded
the Queen's medal with three
clasps.  He took part in the operations
in Cape Colony, including the actions
at Colesberg, the relief of Kimberley,
and participated in the battles
at Paardeberg, Poplar Grove, Dreifontein,
and Karee Siding.
It was after this that Australia was
able to obtain the full benefit of his
military experience.  He really dropped
into Australia by accident, and it
was fortunate for this country that he
did so, for it is generally admitted
that "Bridges has brains."
Before joining the Expeditionary
Force he had held all the leading
Australian Army positions, having been
Chief of Staff, Commandant of the
Royal Military College, Inspector-
General and Adviser to the Australian
representative at the Imperial Defence 
Conference.
He has been described as a student
- a long, thin, grim, angular man with
a brain like a machine, only happy
when deep in the problems of organisation.
The work of recruiting and
getting away the first twenty thousand
men from Australia was left solely to
him.
It is legitimate to say that there was
no section of his work about which he
was more careful than the selection and
appointment of his own staff. He took
Lieut.-Colonel White, the Benjamin of
the Defence Department; the Adjutant-General,
the Quartermaster-General,
the British exchange officers, and the
Australian representative officers in
London. He took Colonel McCay from
his duties as Chief Censor. Colonel
Maclagan from the Military College,
and Colonel Hobbs from his South Australian
artillery work. He took all the
third and fourth year students from
the Military College. We gave the very
best of our military staffs to General
Bridges for his division.  In return he
did all that was expected from him.

CHIEF OF GENERAL STAFF
MAY BE OFFERED POSITION

Lieut-Col. J.G. LEGGE

As the Chief of the General Staff and
First Military Member of the Military
Board, Colonel J.G. Legge will probably
be offered the position of successor
to General Bridges, pending General
Bridges' recovery from his wound.


 

Dear McGlynn
Have managed to
find a copy of red
book. List as follows:-
1.  Col McCay   31.3    6.12.07
2.   "   Hughes             6.12.07
3    "   Burston            1.4.08
4    "
5    "    Holmes           1.1.12
6    "    Chauvel           9.3.13
7    "     Monash          1.7.13
8    "     Hobbs             1.7.13
9     "    Sellheim         1.7.13
10   "     Linton             28.7.13
11   "      Legge               1.5.14
Yrs TA Blamey

 

Dear McGlynn
There is no
CMF List nearer than
Egypt. If it is of any moment
I would suggest your writing
to Col Sellheim.
I am not quite sure of Col
Burston but believe he
commanded the Victorian
Inf Bde in succession to
Col Robertson with full
rank.
I am not sure of the order
of the three on 1.7.13.  I know
Col Sellheim was senior to
Col Legge.
But English newspapers 

 

say that General
Legge left Australia
on 19h May, so it is
probable that he has
been promoted in the
CMF.
The complete dates given
are all correct.
Yours Truly

TA Blamey 

 

Having been informed that the Commonwealth Government has
nominated Colonel Legge to the command of the First Australian Division,
& has promoted him to higher rank in the A.I. Forces  Australian
Imperial Force, I respectfully request that the following representations
may be transmitted to the proper authority:-
I. Altho' in so far as there is for the time being no immediate prospect of my coming under
the command of the G.O.C. 1st Austn. Division, such a position might assume I am not in this aspect
immediately affected by this appointment, yet I am very seriously prejudiced
thereby in the matter of seniority, both in the A.I.F. & in the Commonwealth Forces.
2. In common with a number of other Officers of the rank of Colonel some of them senior to me, now serving
with the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force, I am senior in rank to this officer,
have had many years longer total service, & have commanded a Brigade both
in peace & war; & I am as much involved as they in being thus passed over
& having to bear the stigma & the reflection that in spite of these services I am
in common with them considered to be unfitted for or undeserving of promotion or advancement
in priority  of to a junior officer who has had no previous experience whatever in the command 
of any formation larger than a Company either in peace or in War.
3. It is submitted that this action is most unusual, if not wholely without
precedent, is opposed to the usages of the service, & is unjust to officers who have
made great sacrifices & have borne the heat & burden of the day. - As we are
serving under the Imperial Army Act it is submitted that this is a matter
in which an appeal to Imperial Authority can properly be sought, to the end of
restoring either the status quo or the forfeited seniority.
4. I desire to add that this request is entirely impersonal, & is based on
a question of principle only.-

 

18/5/15
Wanliss
Levy
Permezel

5th

Killed, Fethers, Newham, Saker,
Missing, Clement
Returned. Flockart, Walstab

Wounded Capes, Elder, Lemaistre, Stewart, Gilmore, Ross, McKew
Phillips, Manger, Moore, Grey
Lt Adams, Denham

6th
left
Major Ben
Major Bennett, Capt Corpass
Major Major Edgar

 

"C" Form (Duplicate).
Army Form C. 2123.
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS.
No. of Message ...................................
18
Charges to Pay. 
£      s.    d.
Office Stamp 
18/5/115
(24)
Service Instructions.
Handed in at ......................... Office.......................m. Received 4.17Pm.

TO Brigade Major
4th Infty Bde

Sender's Number           Day of Month             In reply to Number  AAA
                                               Eighteenth
The 15th Bn was in occupation of
Quinn's Post since 12 noon on 17th less
Headquarters and 60 men who were
resting in bivouack. There were also 60
men of 13rd Bn as reserve. During the night
of 17/ 18th the enemy appeared very active
shewing lights & throwing bombs into
the gully on the left of the position. They
also throw threw a number of bombs and 
maintained a heavy rifle fire at intervals
during the night. All today the enemy 
have been very quiet with the exception 
of some heavy shell fire. The men 
on the post have been occupied in still 
improving the trenches of the post.
FROM     H R Carter Major
PLACE & TIME    Quinn's Post 4.10PM

W.2384-583. 30,000 Pads-8.14. S.B. Ltd.-Forms/C2123.

 

"A" Form.  18  Army Form C. 2121.
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Office of Origin and Service Instructions.

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This message is on a/c of:
Service.
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Recd. at     m.
Date
From  25
By
To {
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA
C.O. Quinn's post.

Please let me know if you are making
arrangements to relieve the 60 men of 13th Btn,
now with you, at 12 noon today ? -
The 15th Battalion will be relieved from
Quinn's post at 11 a.m. tomorrow Wednesday 19th
by the 16th Battalion (less H.Q. details) & 60 men
of 13th Battalion.

John Monash
Col.
C.O. 4th A.I.Bde
18/5/15

From
Place  JM
Time

The above may be forwarded as now corrected.
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