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SISTER De MESTRE.
A. W. M.
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Classn No 373 . 2
[961]
The Official War Historian of the Commonwealth
Government (Dr. C. E. W. Bean), after his study of the
collection of private war records preserved in the Australian
War Memorial Library, wrote: ---
"The private diaries in this collection furnish some of its most
valuable historical records, but, like all private memoirs which were
not compiled with any historical purpose, they should not be
regarded as first-hand evidence except where it is certain that they
are so. The diarist is almost always sincere in his desire to record
accurately, but he is subject to no obligation or inducement to
indicate whether he is recording his own observations or incidents
told him by friends or heard at third or fourth hand at the mess-table.
Thus, in some of the diaries in this collection, scenes described with
vivid detail, and without any warning that they are told at second
or third hand, have been found to be completely inaccurate in
important details. A certain number also have been written up
or revised long after the events, though doubtless usually from notes
made at the time. In most cases the student must rely on his
experience and on internal evidence to guide him in judging what is
and what is not likely to be historically accurate.”
20.
Interview taken down in longhand by Medical Collator
A. I. F. from Sister De Mestre A. A. N. S.
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a. New Guinea Expedition and Hospital Ship 'Grantalla'
b. No. 3 A. G. H. journey to England and to Lemnos -
Early work at Lemnos.
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Interview taken down in longhand
by A S Poullts 25/4/19
Sister De Mestre A A N S
New Guinea Expedition
Hospl. Ship Grantala
At outbreak of War Sn. Sister at P Alfred Hopl Sydney -
Seven
was an Army Sister in Reserve - volunteers for Act.
Service at beginning -
At about 18 Aug Matron told me I was apptd.
Matron of "Hopl. Ship" Grantala. forthwith We
were told nothing of where we were going - in
fact we didnt know till we got at
the place and were told what it was - i.e.
Raboul.
We were given about a 10 days to get ready -
not given any idea what to take - I was
told who. by Intern when I went to see
the P.M.O of the Hopl. Ship Dr Horsfall.
He gave me no idea what to get to take -
I advised on my own initiative the Sisters
to pack for hot & cold weather.
We chose white uniform though we
could have taken anyth colour or material
we liked - nothing was
laid down. Chose white because it cd.
be boiled. We heard we were going for
Naval w work. We were not provided with
anything - brought our own uniform -
given no money to pay for it - we have
never been repaid the cost of our
uniforms, etc. We were told our salary
12/6 Matron 10/6 Sisters I think. We
were given no information of our status etc.
The others were classed as Sisters - I was "Matron"
In connection with this - I may say that I had
on return to reapply for Active Service andmy our work in this Hopl did not
count toward our seniority in AIF.
There were in the Hosp Ship ''Sick Bay Steward' - they
were not under me at all but under
a Warrant officer who took all his orders
from the PMO.
The relation was much the same as in a service
Mil - Hopl. We told them what to do
but they took their orders from the W.O.
chiefly. Some were well trained - others
none at all
We tried - in the few wks - to give them some
training but not much was done
as we were seasick.
The Grantala was specially fitted - not -
quite finished when we started.
The fittings were fair but there were some
considerable defects
E.g. the laundry was a failure though
beautifully fitted - because
(1) Not water Enough by a very long
way
(2) The heat in the tropics was so
great down there (it was on a lower deck)
that it was impossible to work
there.
Then was fitted for
The outer decks open to air - fitted up for
cot cases & we used them a lot they
were even used while we were actually,
on the voyage
Every available space was fitted up
for a rush of work -
I think we cd. easily take over 500 but I
cant remember
Swinging cots - posts screwed into sides -
We also had cabins
Theatre amidships fairly well fitted - hot & cold
water had light electric in
X ray room
Equipment & stores seemed plentiful - but Linen
was provided as for Cold Climate
and not for hot & we had a job
to fit our patients with cool pyjamas as
they were all flannel.
3
Med Officers O/c Capn. "Dr" Horsfall (dont know rank)
? 8 PMO.
Dr James (Melb.) Webb Sr (Surgeon)
Capt Werley
Capt. Farrar (after Registrar to 3 AGH)
Quarters Prett Good but small 1 cabin to 2 sisters
fitted by Red X with curtains - chairs
& carpets or. We ha
We had our own linen room -
We had a stewardess - two orderleys
Estab. Nursing One matron - 6 Sisters (all from Prince
Alfred Hospl.)
The Sisters cd. have located for AIF if
we liked - but we thought that it
was a proper Aust Appointment & that
we wd - be among the first chosen &
thought ourselves lucky - as a matter
of fact it hit us badly as far
as promotion & seniority was concerned
though the experience was fine.
Narrative. Townsville 4-5 days. We had no troops &
All med. staff AMC exempt crew - She
was properly marked c\ cross as Hopl Ship.
Our second Sunday on bd. We sighted land -
we had no idea what it was : some
soldiers AIF came alongside in the harbour
& we found out we were at Simpsons haven
The same afternoon we got our first
patients - the first was a Chinese
who had injured himself. No wounded
then - these were from boats -
[*The Photo from Sister of transferring patients on board*]
First news was on that day - that there had
been fighting at Pockley and 96 killed - that was
We did'nt receive any cases to our disappointment
I think because they were military & we
were Naval.
We only took in sick - accident & medical
cases from ships from that day on.
We got no wounded at any time - Most
of the cases were operating - tuberculosis of
lungs - or (off transfer at Fiji) no malaria
nothing of any interest - no typhoid -
a few measles. The Medical ward was
most uninteresting. A lot of French Sailors
off a French boat Man of War Montcalm
Cruiser - operating
We went on shore once for a few hrs in
the 3 wks. Not safe natives hostile -
awfully hot. Could not sleep in cabins
We had lot of drink. Mosquitos not
too bad it was early - but awfully hot.
From there we went to Suva (Fiji) & got
much the same sort of cases- just enough
to keep going.
Got mail at Raboul (Simpson haven) & then we
heard news that 4-5 English Sisters
had arrived to take over the Grantala
They stayed a while in Sydney and
then returned home again.
[c-f. arrangement at Abbeville - no Aust:
ever made ADMS Abbeville]
At Fiji we got ashore & it was interesting
- the people were splendid to
us. We had invitations every day &
had a good time -
There till beginning of Dec' & returned home
about 23 Decr. Bringing no cases -
Came back empty and were all paid off at
Garden Island. - we had all had good health.
Grantala went off- again without sisters to
hunt for I reported to the Endeavour - She was
then dismantled as too small.
I reported to P.A.H. again &
went on with my old work.
On enquiring observed my name was still on the
role for enlisting - & I again offered
my services - I saw Miss Creel at Sydney Hospital
in April. & soon after was told that there
were so many sisters going & we (others from
P. Alfred) wd. be wanted. Later we found
that it was as part of Staff of No 3 AGH
We were medically examined (14 days before sailing)
I found an Attestation paper - ("4 months after
the war") Rec- a list from Matron of
the clothing to take - & told to get our
uniforms - we got about £20 I think
some of it I think came from the
Red x - we were told exactly the
uniform to get but incl. red cape - but
we had bonnets and big outdoor capes
(which in Egypt were too hot and is
now changed) - uniform changed outdoor
to coat & skirt & hat ) For Matron).
We each had to take with us out of their £20 a
lot of equipment - thermometers & rubber
gloves - medicine glass - set of instruments -
rubber catheter
(Eqt list -) & further items for
ourselves - teapot. basin - 2 plates
knife fork & spoon & a wristlet
watch - [ Not leaving much to
spare for clothing ] - also I think an
Eiderdown and rug!!
We didn't meet the Matron - Miss Wilson -
till we came on board the ship.
We embarked on the Moultan a hell of a lot of
sisters over 200. 180 get off at Egypt!
We were kept busy on board - teaching
lecturing & training orderleys - for 3 A.G.H.
In the p.m. we had lectures by Med. Officer
on En. Typhoid - treatment of wounds - nothing
which has any special bearing on
any military cleanup just the
ordinary lectures which you would
get on a nursing training.
There was no military organisation.
One lecture by Col Fiarchi was on
[[?]] bed-wash; & we had boat drill ad
nauseam. We had games also - & "physical jerks"
We had our own Wren tables in the
saloon - 3 sittings of meals! there
was such a crowd -
We called at Colombo & Bombay and
all got ashore we heard aco no reports
of ill behaviour of Austrns at any
place. xxx xxxxx x we landed at,
No excitements on the voyage, but it
was interesting getting to the different
places.
At Suez most of us got off a few hoursA few disembarked.
& we then went straight to Marseilles
staying there a day - we had
to leave our luggage packed ready
to get off - But we went via Gibraltar
to Plymouth - Disembarked there & came
straight on to London.
Captain Lieut Hughes Ken Smith was O/C nurses
he had a time constraint- there were
buses at the Station to meet us -
I don't know how he worked it : no
trouble with luggage - took us
straight to the Ivanhoe Hotel.
We were in London waiting for 3
weeks. People were good to us Esp.
a Mr Williams (Supervisor) who took
an interest in Australians - & took us
out for some trips - Most of the
times we're on our own - There were
some other trips good - People were very
good to us that time - (So different to
the next time we came over from
Egypt- two years after - No one took any
notice of us & we had a terror of
a time)
We embarked from Southampton- sisters on one
ship. Staff nurses in another- Sister
Headley & I were i/c staff nurses -
The ship was full of troops going to
Alex - on a German ship- Tommies -
submarine precautions - were various "Excursions
& alarms-" ship unballasted
on but felt safe through to Malta- got
ashore - then onto alex - Disembarked -
troops went on to Gallipoli.
Stayed 48 hrs there & embarked on Hopl.
ship for Lemnos. We met the rest
of the nursing staff in Egypt - Col. Dick
was the only M/O with us - & we went
together to Lemnos.
In England we got our new equipment for
Lemnos - washstand - buckets - cooking utensils -
food - biscuits - tinned things -
Each gave £2 for our mess equipment
We heard that they were short of food -
flasks - lanterns.
We were given no official information what wd.
be wanted - We found, as a matter of
fact that we would have been
badly "in the soup" without it,
though we received no warning
that we should take it : my feeling is
that Col Smith (their Major) was such a
farsighted, level headed, chap man, that I think
he probably was responsible for
giving us the tip to get the things.
Landed at Lemnos - and were landed at
Port Mudros in large boats Met
by Col Fiaschi & Cpl Knowles &
we "formed fours" and marched up
to the Hospl. led by Cpl Knowles
playing the Bagpipes!
We found bell tents pitched for us. There
were very few others - 2 sisters
only in a bell tent - just sisters
we had a tent - of course rough &
ready - no seats of course. Our
equipment didn't arrive till later.
We had our knives & forks cups &
plates or that we brought from
Australia.
We arrived at 11 am had lunch - bread
jam & tea & I went straight
into the theatre to help Col
McCormack there was hardly
any thing then (there was no equipment
the (others)? Med. officers had been there
a week - the men were all in
their dirty clothes - the operating
was the most awful sight I
have seen. We cut up dressings
from the packages as we wanted
it. There was our small sterilizer
for washing up instruments
We had to stop at dark just
because there was no light
The patients were all bad wounded
cases - head- abdomen - chest
all burnt - multiple wounds
All in their dirty clothes - no
chance to wash them - this is
worst of war. We had to
keep them in their filthy clothes
some of the "wards' had
mattresses & blanket - others had not
even that. I was on the op. theatre that
day - I had a mattress to sleep on
next day started at 7 breakfast at 6.30
& had a ward - tent roughly pitched
& 40 cases. You couldn't walk
in bet' the mattresses the cases
were on. As then whole -
nothing to wash the cases in but Clea bed pans - Sisters had
to tear up their clothes for towels
to wipe them with - no linen
or fabric - a few were then provided
by orderlys but mostly
can tins cut down for cups.
Food for patients was awful at
first. badly cooked - bread very
bad - & [[?]]
Our tucker was almost all tinned - bully
beef - bread cob was very bad mouldy.
The people on the navy ships however
soon found us out Halsey
(Admiral) came along and they
sent us bread direct from the ships!
It was about a fortnight we began
to get our own equipment we got
two beds - in a ward - then 4 also
are all equipped - a few sheets
for bad cases in about a
fortnight
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