Gallipoli letters of Rupert Major Downes - Part 7

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First World War, 1914–18
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letter to tro. F. to frus splis 211:16 which is wilright sumlimes Te alli pols evacuation was truly that they can dunt ly it al long rank. I think if eve chad a winclerfu pirformance malus up a bit for all the mistahes stayed in they eun a lave deen iltien the nislis bonwarded ithe disarter as already itle lrps place lreavily the day after had been in short satums owers everyi lead left & it is certain to the enaltin & the high tting even expecting an altadr ly explor they even felling ernild us. the emwaden was mingin lian unade a bad dress on mne than a week lefr ltim is him thei by dioiibyen enlle the luch of very fin Hhe last evil I liadillien evealtus-ltrew wasd Ial at lowisin al ead quarter next day woh eould lian wvas a rallu incun for table made any embartratin improsubl one. it was stuated in a tiy fot off all but 30 mules littl pockit in sum hills & a few evoment him; you must wilts hill in 3 sides & open remember that it was all the lngust part in illi y dane in a very lright monnliget being tlowards the Tusks
& was two steep for thr apnd to it at us but itty Tiks had itty range to an incly & und to trut us to it daily One day they put in about 200 shills fum 4 to10 in about Gllms me of them at into the backI yenl godleys duint & ld came out brushing th dist out of his lan if it liad been H.2 iistead of old black powdle illien wvould not heave been eniglit him to busy. Another pt into our mess Aujut itteigs this table abut 2 lum litry Afternoon itea & ricked it cam plitely another landed abutt 6 feet frm my dread when I was my oonly shook thu place a wil but I was fullup of it by then s went ot on a walkin ithe open for praitical pupins tly pials come down, pirfundicularly so that no cover is f any uis o its letter to walk int into the open. One ptints a funbrliol sum 14ft Eleep in ever. even 6 me & met iltrem was not tonched: Any potinto I wirlers ir Augonts & in me Can te men in it was nly a ilatl barnt they mmond a luspital tent ly inclus, ut later after I left got a
lrifus explinin 10 stull into it place I at the end they even so blew 1s pert into all wer tln but ly lhal tim ithey had funbr landscap. then used to ratter luvles 16 feet under fround? I can am of ilte men a lot after a till you about otheis now theres to few days of it I llny an leastly leno ps bback then. Illimt te Halles evacuation was a mor ltings hr tery start evilts a cloo lunderful slino itran ours for the fewl libe thewind in the trus evle ivery slowly gets clonder I anks must cliair ben prepand londer till it becames a slonils & us had y unles frum un from & then a was, but it takes a trencus to th whars. lng tim lopn you know evhin Dant fed vay breen to po any whin ils yring to lands ttats illy ils, cmed prifer Australia. narty lim. Sumlumes iliey An gac was ci freat plane to buill y juns of a balleryin euiltiunam. let. Peisunally I dnit ltls tle rapid sucdrsim, anyun of thin bld many shulls in an little Canal shrow will ile evry lif after A talk with a man who has hread quarters of ligh explosing would leave endid illle evlie lind at Alexandulla for years
nns all thes parts wil iln says the rails for the time th turks an building acriss the desert an ilight 5 it B in mes A litte us on lleavy stores. Al w iltial itrey cant fisisl ps a ling tim the lenels lns the Ttaurns Wits. & the next rank that they lave bren in. bn 5 years rin & without itle Eailway th the, it is imould to bring aaous ps than b in ovr the passs. It will probally inly bul donn into a said & we have a lot trip ithes now to met it mune ltian at Salmilca? ltun br. Hun is a putly strit censinslip in news him illrens precims little lealis tliro Haw hreard nothing him about itl mention in dispotalies It praitically came to a recumideg friam deciration so if notling comes of it as is librely I wine mind ven in this sann company as tar litter col drew llian I. Andusm writes lhal m of our heatest victoris to date is ill recall of Frenchs hum dramce It is iupusi, but I had lreard sumilten of itli bud bep espicially ltial thie Frends wanted to nust him. thear alw that all te officers back fuum Franc are eere
cotry & lorbiin us as lravin a rual infrm any ltun if enly llt stall evorls did nt laid to oten. Ir were right lters tllle Guman lines at du & neas their by hins & supports 20 lious late so that lte Genary bruight lttehins back. Honens lead it not been for bad staff wirhin the side ily Geomans woild lave been thro' to Calais at lty 2rd balth f yhus. Our S.H. sems to lian don pod evorb Amut illu Arabs & the country is intacle for them
30R1 far Memorte
Mudros 30.7.15 Dear Colonel I wrote to you a week or two ago but al I have not kept my promise bery well of writing to you now ill try to tell you more of the doings of the aame. as facac know personally and from what I have been told where the news re apparently reliable The 1t LH. TA. are at present lost as Sutherland, Towler & Lamsden went off to alex. in a temporary hospital ship & have not appeared & ince though they are due back here + have been wired for where they are likely to be. Fracch is the 1sth. H. Regt as Mo. & somesomen he had are on the beach here doing nothing & without an officer; he has got into trouble over some incubordinate & abnewe letter he wrote to head quarters & is a bad growler like Rameden. Iutherland was veryfit when blas saw him. Fowler is trying to get the Maprity & my lot but apparently there is noone capable of making the promotion of him or White which isprety rotten after 10 monthe. Me holas is at Alex. + the horses & Helcham was last at Malta & some of the menare on fleet sweepers; so thennit has been pretty broken up & theyll have difficulty in getting together again. Their Warrant officer has caused a lot of trouble in the
4th JH. Stillatawyas & fortunately for them have had plenty ofwork Beeston reveryfit well bu fermyn gone back to eaght at they did not hit it feffried back his unit again & well basually blearing station as they are now known have lost Richarde died of Pnenmonia, Campbell in England after aneumonia, of Brien probably with Phthen in Egypt & athing gone to anstratia & a ship a rotten tuck to play polin is well & cheerful but yordon & bortin who inchanged from IA very full uip of no work though & so few officere the yll have a hard time if there is much to do. HDSH. Bryant not very well + growle as much aleoe Powell rethestrongman of the crowd, they have avery nice place here where they have been since March & electric light, Gray, & wooden theatre. Willon away e Typhord & they have murheed attachedhe was firtt o1- lett. Ithen sutherland bu the has an unfortunate manner OsH. take up to 000 patiente & wd think the best 2 stationary hospital here - due mostly to Barber who tune at swho re a good man though very ducatisfied with thing generally Sawere had t yphord & gutteredge (6th Batt) too Barber off to England with a hospital ship soon
about the Genl hospitale I know little encept that ho has some 2o medical officere there doing hardly anything & the gras all the reinforcements for mobile unite up here which are badly wanted & & think the admes & Dome will be having something tocay soon to mention Barrett throwemost o the mos here ino an inclant &it of fury & the feeting about his adme jot & promotion ie very great. He signe himself ddme Australian foriel - awonder what Howee will say to that. The former seme to be as much hated in bairs & apparently is not spoken to by most semor Auetraliant wich to God that you were here at the head o thing for the temper of the senior men is such that I am nervous for the name of the aame through what they may do. Itre hard being under Rains men who though quite ns know not the officer nor our organication + conctitution + dont try very hard to find out I had hopee that you might becoming out o the no 3 Gd. but dont suppose the Goot would let you away, I think you are badly wanted here to be insupreme control. I expect you are hard put to it to get officere for all these new troops just enlisted; its good to secence recrinting but we want them.

Letter to M.F.D  from H'plis 
21.1.16 
The Gallipoli evacuation was truly
a wonderful performance & makes 
up a bit for all the mistakes 
there. The Turks bombarded the 
place heavily the day after 
everyone had left & it is certain 
they were expecting an attack by 
us. The unloading was going on 
for more than a week before 
with the luck of very fine 
weather - there was a gale 
next day wh. would have 
made any embarkation impossible 
They got off  all but 30 mules  
and a few worn out guns ; you must  
remember that it was all 
done in a very bright moonlight 
which is so bright some times 
that they can shoot by it at  
long range. I think if we had 
stayed on there would have been 
disaster as already the troops 
had been on short rations owing 
to the weather & the high 
explosive they were getting would 
have made a bad mess of 
things from their big howitzers 
The last week I had there 
at Divisional Head quarters 
was a rather uncomfortable 
one - it was situated in a 
little pocket in some hills 
with hill on 3 sides & open 
on the 4th, the highest part  
being towards the Turks

 

& was too steep for shrapnel to 
get at us but the Turks 
had the range to an inch 
& used to treat us to it daily 
One day they put in about 
200 shells from 4 to 10" in 
about ¾ hour ; one of them 
got into the back of Genl 
Godley's dugout & he 
came out brushing the dirt 
out of his hair - if it had 
been H. Z. instead of old 
black powder there would 
not have been enough of him 
to bury. Another got into our 
mess dugout through the 
table about ½ hour before 
afternoon tea & wrecked it 
completely, another landed 
about 6 feet from my head 
when I was in my office & only 
shook the place a bit, but I was 
full up of it by then & went 
out for a walk in the open. 
For practical purposes they 
come down quite perpendicularly 
so that no cover is of any use 
& its better to walk out into the 
open. One got into a fresh hole 
some 14ft deep in wh. were 6 
men & one of them was not 
touched; they got into 2 wireless 
dugouts & in one case one of the men 
in it was only a little burnt 
they missed a hospital tent by 
inches, but later after I left got a

 

higher explosive 10" shell into it & 
blew 18 patients all over the 
landscape. These used to rattle 
some of the men a lot after a  
few days of it, & they are beastly 
things as they start with a loud 
fsssh like the wind in the trees 
wh. very slowly gets louder & 
louder till it becomes a shriek 
& then a roar, but it takes a 
long time before you know where 
it's going to land & thats the 
nasty time. Sometimes they 
let off 4 guns of a battery in 
rapid succession, anyone of these 
let many shells on our little 
headquarters of high explosive 
would have ended the whole 
place & at the end they were so 
bad by that time they had fresh 
holes 16 feet underground. I can 
tell you about this now there's to 
be no going back there. I think 
the Helles evacuation was a more 
wonderful show than ours for the 
Turks must have been prepared 
& we had 4 miles from the front 
trenches to the wharves. 
Dont feel very keen to go any where 
else, would prefer Australia. 
Anzac was a great place to kill 
enthusiasm. 
Personally I dont think the 
Canal show will be very big after 
a talk with a man who has 
lived at Alexandretta for years

 

& knows all these parts well, 
he says the rails for the line 
the Turks are building across the 
desert are light 5ft 3in ones 
& of little use for heavy stores. 
Also that they cant finish for 
a long time the tunnels thro' 
the Taurus Mts. & the next  
range that they been on 
for 5 years now & without the 
railway thro' these, it is 
impossible to bring heavier guns 
than 6in over the passes. 
-It will probably only boil down 
into a raid & we have a lot 
of troops there now to meet it 
more than at Salonika I 
think. There is a pretty strict 
censorship on news from there 
& precious little leaks thro'. 
Have heard nothing since 
about the "mention in despatches" 
It practically came to a recommendation 
for some decorations so if nothing 
comes of it as is likely I wont 
mind being in the same company 
as far better soldiers than I. 
Anderson writes that one of our 
greatest victories to date is the 
recall of French from France. It is 
surprising but I had heard 
something of the kind before 
especially that the French wanted 
to oust him. 
I hear also that all the officers 
back from France are very

 

cocky & look on us as having 
a great supremacy there if only 
the staff work did not fail too 
often. We were right thro' the 
German lines at Loos & near 
their big guns & supports 24 
hours late so that the Germans 
brought the guns back. However  
had it not been for bad 
staff work on their side the 
Germans would have been 
thro' to Calais at the 2nd 
battle of Ypres. Our L.H. seems 
to have done good work 
among the Arabs & the country 
is made for them 

 

  
 

 

  

 

Mudros 
30.7.15 
Dear Colonel, 
I wrote to you a week or two ago but as I have not 
kept my promise very well of writing to you now I'll try 
to tell you more of the doings of the A.A.M.C. as far as I 
know personally and from what I have been told where 
the news is apparently reliable. 
The 1st L.H.F.A. are at present lost as Sutherland, Fowler & Ramsden 
went off to Alex. in a temporary hospital ship & have not 
appeared since though they are due back here & have been 
wired for where they are likely to be. Fraschi is the 1st L. 
H. Regt as M.O. & some 20 men he had are on the beach here 
doing nothing & without an officer; he has got into trouble 
over some insubordinate & abusive letter he wrote to head 
quarters & is a bad growler like Ramsden. Sutherland was 
very fit when I last saw him. Fowler is trying to get the 
Majority my lot but apparently there is noone capable 
of making the promotion of him or White which is pretty 
rotten after 10 months. Nicholas is at Alex. the horses 
& Helsham was last at Malta & some of the men are on 
fleet sweepers; so the unit has been pretty broken up 
& they'll have difficulty in getting together again. 
Their Warrant Officer has caused a lot of trouble in the

 

4th FA still at Anzac & fortunately for them have had 
plenty of work. Beeston is very fit & well but Jermyn 
gone back to Egypt as they did not hit it. Jeffries 
back his unit again & well. 
Casualty Clearing Station as they are now known have 
lost Richards died of Pneumonia, Campbell in England 
after pneumonia, O'Brien probably with Phthisis in 
Egypt & Atkins gone to Australia a ship - a rotten 
trick to play. Giblin is well & cheerful but Gordon & 
Corbin who exchanged from 1st S.H. very full up of 
no work though so few officers they'll have a hard 
time if there is much to do. 
1st S.H. Bryant not very well & growls as much as ever 
-Powell is the strong man of the crowd. They have 
a very nice place here where they have been since 
March electric light, X ray, & wooden theatre. Wilson 
away Typhoid & they have Muirhead attached - he 
was first  1st G.H. & then Sutherland but he has 
an unfortunate manner. 
2nd S.H. Takes up to 600 patients & is I think the best 
stationary hospital here - due mostly to Barber who 
runs it & who is a good man though very dissatisfied 
with things generally. Sawers has Typhoid & 
Gutteridge (6thBattn) too. Barber off to England with 
a hospital ship soon

 

About the Genl hospitals I know little except that No
has some 70 medical officers there doing hardly 
anything & the grab all the reinforcements for 
mobile units up here which are badly wanted  
& I think the A.D.M.S.s & D.D.M.S. will be having something 
to say soon. To mention Barrett throws most of 
the M.Os. here into an instant fit of fury & the feeling  
about his A.D.M.S job & promotion is very great. He 
signs himself A.D.M.S. Australian Forces - I wonder 
what Howse will say to that. The former seems to 
be as much hated in Cairo & is apparently is not 
spoken to by most senior Australians. 
I wish to God that you were here at the head of  
things for the temper of the senior men is such 
that I am nervous for the name of the A.A.M.C. through what they may do. It is hard being under 
R.A.M.C. men who though quite nice know not the officers 
nor our organisation & constitution & dont try 
very hard to find out. I had hopes that you might 
be coming out the No 3 G.H. but dont suppose  
the Govt would let you away, I think you are  
badly wanted here to be in supreme control. 
I expect you are hard put to it to get the officers for 
all these new troops just enlisted; its good to see such 
recruiting but we want them.

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